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Trio recovered in CO8

Our trio of dogs (including our late Cocker Spoodle, Jake) was originally taken on the E-M5 & was somewhat over exposed with the white blown out on Max, the Border Collie, as seen here.


Today, despite having only upgrading to Capture Pro 7 back in June (at half price), I decided to bite the bullet & just go for CO8 at 69EUR with this result.



I could probably go even better with a bit more playing around. I selected CO8's preset for 'Sunny' as well as pulling back highlights, adding some 'Natural' Clarity & a bit of other adjustments. This looks much more realistic of the actual colours etc.

Another attempt had been made (in this thread) using CO7 with my custom warm result.

I'd welcome some comments.

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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

First of all let me declare I am a sucker for dog portraits. I like this cheeky trio, they look as though they have great characters.

The eye contact is spot on and it could not have been easy to get all 3 looking at the camera together.

I would like to see the background a tad darker just to give more prominence to the 3 main subjects.
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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

Technically this is a good recovery. I'm particularly impressed at the detail you've pulled out of the blown whites.

Compositionally, how on earth did you get the dogs to pose like that? Was food involved?
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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

Very impressive, Ross, that's a great recovery.
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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

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First of all let me declare I am a sucker for dog portraits. I like this cheeky trio, they look as though they have great characters.

The eye contact is spot on and it could not have been easy to get all 3 looking at the camera together.

I would like to see the background a tad darker just to give more prominence to the 3 main subjects.
I think I remember asking them to stop coming down the steps (they're at the top of several) & as they were taking their positions I could see the potential in this pose & I kept telling them "Stay" with my hand up as I backed down onto the grass level below & as I am the one that usually feeds them, I have pretty good rapport with them & it wasn't difficult to keep their attention & ask them to stay while I got the shot I wanted. I have 2 photos of them here with the first one with Jake looking sideways at his mates (just like children or even adult people will do).

As I learn to do layers in CO8, it might be possible to darken the background more, but the vignette control was pretty good in CO7 so it should be useful here using CO8 as well.

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Technically this is a good recovery. I'm particularly impressed at the detail you've pulled out of the blown whites.

Compositionally, how on earth did you get the dogs to pose like that? Was food involved?
It just shows you what that Sony sensor in the E-M5 is capable of capturing with it being buried in the raw file.

Just believe me when I say my dogs love me (especially when I have food, which wasn't this time). It happened as I described above though.

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Very impressive, Ross, that's a great recovery.
Thanks John. I was pleasantly surprised too & CO8 has a new engine which helps more now & is why I gave in & upgraded today.

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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

Very nice Ross a great portrait of the three of them, glad to see you are getting the hang of CO8.

Not sure I agree about darkening the background as you would lose separation of what is basically three black dogs from the background. I usually find after recovering the highlights and shadows that a tiny little increase in the contrast and brightness sliders helps lift the image a little.
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Very nice Ross a great portrait of the three of them, glad to see you are getting the hang of CO8.

Not sure I agree about darkening the background as you would lose separation of what is basically three black dogs from the background. I usually find after recovering the highlights and shadows that a tiny little increase in the contrast and brightness sliders helps lift the image a little.
Thanks Paul. This one does have a little added contrast & I've tried a few more different approaches with different levels (exp & contrast etc.) & I will print this photo for display & so I will probably have to play some more to get what I want for that too. I'm glad I managed to get the three of them together (especially now there are only two) for this shot & I'm relieved I could sufficiently recover this frame as much as I have here.

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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

Great improvement. Well done.
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Re: Trio recovered in CO8

Nice.

I'm also really enjoying the upgrade from COE7 to COP8: a bit of a bargain IMHO.

It is a steep-ish learning curve, although my camera club recently gave a couple of LR seminars and this was really useful (i.e. showing what is possible and what the various options can achieve: so it's now a matter of finding all the equivalents in CO!).
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