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EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

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Looking for some advice regarding the 17mm f1.8 v the Olympus 12mm f2, does anyone have both and can compare... trying to build a lens lineup from scratch following a recent move back to the EM5 from a Nikon D600 and not sure what to get!
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Both top quality lenses, taking the same size filters, but obviously of different focal lengths. The 17mm is a more general-purpose prime and slightly wide-angle, whereas the 12mm is equivalent to a 24mm in 35mm camera (or "full frame") terms, so definitely wide angle.

My ideal prime set is the 12mm, 17mm, 45mm (a must!) and the 75mm. Unfortunately Olympus do not yet do a m4/3 prime longer than 75mm.
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

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Folks,

Looking for some advice regarding the 17mm f1.8 v the Olympus 12mm f2, does anyone have both and can compare... trying to build a lens lineup from scratch following a recent move back to the EM5 from a Nikon D600 and not sure what to get!
I have neither but do have the 45mm and as Stephen says is a must have.
BTW what can you tell us about your journey to FF and lots of pixels and why back again?.
If money and time permits then why not the new 12-40mm?
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Did like the 45mm before and will get one when I get a chance, its not one I would use a lot though!

Money permitting I'd have the 12mm and 17mm, loved the old (f2.8) 17mm lens so might go for that first... mainly as its cheaper!

I did order a used 12mm from WEX but have 7 days to return it, might go for the 17 and 25 combo for now!
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Welcome back would also like to know about your adventure with N....N
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

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Apart from Oly I use Leica M and they are strictly prime lenses only. I have found, after many changes, trials and tribulations that FOR ME the best suite of lenses goes up in roughly doubling of focal length. In my case 17mm 28mm 50mm 90mm (halve these for mtf equivalents) These are the ones I would take with me routinely, though rarely more than 2 at a time. On the M the 35mm and 75mm have appeal but there is nothing they do that a bit of foot zoom or cropping with the next wider lens won't do. Lens changing is a chore to be avoided if possible and this x2 set seems to work well for me.

I haven't mentioned the quality of the lens - this may be a factor but after a certain price point it is taken for granted whether Leica, Zeiss or Olympus.
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Ok I have both - and have had the opportunity to shoot with the 12-40 briefly - The primes are small lightweight and travel well

for me 17 and 45 get most use - but if you are into landscapes or street photography the 24 is wonderful.

as others have said 75 is to die for BUT I would suggest the 60 mm macro is also very very nice with an equivalent 120 mm reach
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

When I had an EM5 before I loved the 25mm but possibly more because it was my best kind of walkaround lens (9-18 was too wide for all the time and the 45mm was too long)

But on my D7000 and D600 my favourite focal lengths were my Nikon 24mm f2.8 and Sigma 35mm f1.4... which suggests to me that I'd be best off starting with the 12mm f2 and 17mm f1.8 for now probably adding a 45mm f1.8 for length and then I might add the 25mm if I see a used one at a good price.

As for why I came back to the EM5 from full frame? one answer... size! The D600 while having stellar image quality is just too bulky and heavy to take with me all the time, even as a prime user (Nikon 24mm f2.8 D, Sigma 35mm f1.4 & Nikon 85mm f1.8D) it became a hassle on holiday to cart the lot and change lenses.

The EM5 won't get me away from changing lenses as again I love primes and I love the M4/3 primes but size wise I will be able to carry around my entire kit everyday without worrying about the weight.
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

It's sort of hard to recommend FL choice since it all depends on what you shoot and what your preferences are. Personally, I like wide, but 12mm isn't wide enough, so I have a 7.5 fisheye, a 7-14 and a 9-18! I didn't mean to end up with so many, but now I've got them I can find uses for all three!

OTOH, I have the 17/1.8 too and it's a great general purpose lens - good enough for people and groups, great for street and wide enough for general landscapes (but I don't personally subscribe to the view that landscape =wide).

I don't think you can go wrong with either. Plan on both in the long term!
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Well I received a 12mm but I have to say I'm not massively impressed, it doesn't seem to be particularly sharp and I'm a little disappointed with it.
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

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Well I received a 12mm but I have to say I'm not massively impressed, it doesn't seem to be particularly sharp and I'm a little disappointed with it.
Is it focussing OK? Stupid question, but you've not got the lens set to manual focus? My copy is razor sharp.
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Yeah its certainly on AF, perhaps I'm expecting too much coming back from full frame I'm just not getting images I'm that happy with.
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Don't know if this helps, but this was taken with the 12mm at f2.5.

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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Thanks Stephen,

I'm planning on heading out tonight to get some shots, so will see how I get on!

Also got a 17mm f1.8 arriving today so will be good to put them up against each other!
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Re: EM5 lens advice (12 or 17...)

Well I've been shooting with the 17 tonight and I'm very impressed. The 12mm will be going back!
Think I'll pair this with a 45mm and maybe a used 12-35 for now!
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