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The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

Sorry out about the thread title, I really should not have watched carry on camping on Saturday night!

Anyway, I set myself a little challenge this morning to try out my 50-200SWD with the EC-14 teleconverter and compare it to the results I got with my Bigma. I also decided that I would not do my usual thing and photo the woodpeckers and try to capture some images of various tits. Blimey, what a frustrating game that turned out to be, here are some of the results;







Oh, I could not help myself, I thought this young Starling was quite nice, shame I did not stck to my own challenge rules!



I have cropped some of the images a touch and played with the image size to get the files small enough to upload.

My conclusion is that the 50-200SWD paired up with the EC-14 gives better image IQ at equivalent focal lengths than the Bigma. Although this setup only gives a range of 70-280mm rather than the 50-500mm range of the Bigma. My only gripe today has nothing to do with either lens but I was a little surprised at how much noise was present in the shots, all were taken at ISO 400 on my E-3. Although to be fair the background is realitvely dark on the most affected images.

If any of you have some tips on just how to get those lovely little birds to stay in one place for longer I would love to hear them, is superglue allowed?

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Chris

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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

These are very good - I particularly like the first one. The poor thing looks really dishevelled! The little b*****rs move so quickly, don't they? Anyone would think they were worried something was going to try and eat them
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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

I love these shots, the first one especially.
After seeing such sleek birds around this spring, to see the state they have let themselves go to, just because they've been breeding, is disgusting.
I can't see any noise problem on these shots, maybe some noise in the background but that's not what I'm looking at.
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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

Great set - though at the moment I favour the young starling.

I'm having problems 'seeing' the noise, even after dropping the images into The GIMP and blowing up. Though whatever route was used to resize and/or sharpen might be obscuring what was in the original shot.

But yes it looks like the swd 50-200 is as outstanding paired to the ec1.4 as the original lens was.

Now if only Olympus would give us a 200-500 (f2.8--f3.5) at the same price point (weathersealed of course). Now that would be worth saving the pennies for.

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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

Dear Nick,

Are you going to start the petition to convince Olympus to produce that lens or shall I?

In any case I will start saving now

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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

No. 2 for me - just perfect.

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Love the young starling shot, the focus looks to be spot on. Number 2 would work, but the focus isn't quite on the eye; otherwise that would have been the winner for me.

The 50-200 & 1.4tc sure is an awesome combo and still very sharp wide open.

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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

Dear Nick,

When I processed the shots I did use a noise reduction program which helped. I just found another one I liked



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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

Another good shot - even without any obvious noise to liven it up

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Captain D, i love these photo's and look to them as inspiration as i have just purchased an EC-14 from kerso to go with my newly aquired 50-200swd, i have also ordered a pop up hide for the garden, if my photos get anywhere near the quality of yours i shall be very happy
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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

Dear Phil,

Your comments are much appreciated, my best tip of all is to get up early and take your shots before 09.00. After that the light gets too harsh aand makes exposure a nightmare, especially with my much loved woodpeckers. Also I find that a setting -0.7 of exposure compensation helps a lot so that the whites for example do not get burnt out.

But remember you are just seeing the good ones, not all of the shots that are crap! Practice will be rewarded when you get up and running

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Re: The trouble with tits (50-200SWD + EC-14)

I think these are superb. There some very talented photographers with images of birds on this website and these up there with the best.
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