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Ball head, bit of a different brand

I've treated myself to a new set of tripod legs and ballhead.

After looking at a lot of options, I ended up with a less than obvious brand of ballhead. I got a Dörr XB36, it's nice and compact, Arca Swiss compatible with pano clamp. It's middle of the road price wise, but the quality seems top notch.

They are a German brand and have a full range of heads and legs (I'd already bought a different brand of legs though) along with other equipment..

Definitely worth a look if your after a new head.
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Re: Ball head, bit of a different brand

Many years ago I standardize to that manfrotto tripod plate. I have been swapping out those ballheads and replacing them with the manfrotto quick change plates and holders and last year, a fren showed me how versatile those Arca Swiss plates were. There was the L plate which makes portrait mounting a breeze. then there was those Nodal Slide that made Panorama swivel so simple. Hence the process of switching to the Arca Swiss began..and because I needed a light tripod and having had so many non branded in the past, I decided to treat myself to a Manfrotto.. BUT it came with a Manfrotto quick release.
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Re: Ball head, bit of a different brand

Haha that's exactly why I didn't go for a Manfrotto!
I use a L bracket all the time so Arca Swiss for me.
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Re: Ball head, bit of a different brand

My Frankenstein Manfrotto ballhead

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Re: Ball head, bit of a different brand

The Dörr XB36 sounds interesting, but I went budget adding a pano head on the Zomei ball head I got with the tripod (Z699C).


Pan head on Z699C tripod ball head. by Ross, on Flickr

For the little amount I am going to use it I think it will do me OK. Although I also did buy a levelling ball head with an indexing pano head to use for more serious panorama shots (still budget brands though).

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The Dörr XB36 sounds interesting, but I went budget adding a pano head on the Zomei ball head I got with the tripod (Z699C).


For the little amount I am going to use it I think it will do me OK. Although I also did buy a levelling ball head with an indexing pano head to use for more serious panorama shots (still budget brands though).

Hope you are also reading up on that Nodal point. Pano don't really work if you rotate on that screw point. I found out the hard way.
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Hope you are also reading up on that Nodal point. Pano don't really work if you rotate on that screw point. I found out the hard way.
I know the theory. However, in practice it hasn't caused problem so far!
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Hope you are also reading up on that Nodal point. Pano don't really work if you rotate on that screw point. I found out the hard way.
That's why I also use a rail (similar to yours) to pivot on the pupil entrance point of the lens.
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The Dörr XB36 sounds interesting, but I went budget adding a pano head on the Zomei ball head I got with the tripod (Z699C).


Pan head on Z699C tripod ball head. by Ross, on Flickr

For the little amount I am going to use it I think it will do me OK. Although I also did buy a levelling ball head with an indexing pano head to use for more serious panorama shots (still budget brands though).

That's the tripod and head i've just upgraded from (mines the aluminium version). They served me well for a couple of years and would have continued to do so..... Need and Want are too different things though aren't they ��

The better build quality in the new stuff is apparent though, although I can't say it'll make one iota of difference to my photos!


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...the Zomei ball head I got with the tripod (Z699C).


Pan head on Z699C tripod ball head. by Ross, on Flickr
How many grams is this? I am still looking for a light but sturdy ballhead.
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How many grams is this? I am still looking for a light but sturdy ballhead.
This is a similar pano head, but with the other attachments as I bought mine with a weight of 204gm which I then attached to the ball head from Zomei.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leofoto-...lar!2777!AU!-1


I also have this pano head on a levelling ball head. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DH-55-Pa...frcectupt=true
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Re: Ball head, bit of a different brand

At a pinch you can use a 'Virtual Tripod'.

I've used this technique with some success:

http://www.philohome.com/tripod/shooting.htm

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At a pinch you can use a 'Virtual Tripod'.

I've used this technique with some success:

http://www.philohome.com/tripod/shooting.htm

(Philo's web site is worth a look)

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Yes, I've seen that (& quoted it) before too. I can't say I've actually done it (or maybe I have & forgotten), but I'm sure it can add stability to the camera though.
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Re: Ball head, bit of a different brand

Thanks Ross. So it's a panning head that sits on the Arca Swiss Ball head.

I am currently rotating on the ball head directly. Maybe that would be better and more accurate.
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Thanks Ross. So it's a panning head that sits on the Arca Swiss Ball head.

I am currently rotating on the ball head directly. Maybe that would be better and more accurate.
You can do it that way or take the centre screw out of the ball head's Arca-Swiss plate & take the base of the pano head & put the screw down through the middle. These things often come with options of mounting etc. & how I did mine.
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