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Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

There seems to be few to choose from in M4/3. I have the Samyang fisheye and I still use my 43 9-18mm, which I have not changed to the m43 as I believe that the 43 version is at least as good and probably better.
I know there is a Samyang 10mm, which looks pretty heavy and there is an enormously expensive Voigtlander at 10.5mm, but there isn't anything else that is not a fisheye. Wouldn't it be good to have a Prime 8,9, or 10 mm from Oly or Pany that was not a fisheye?
With my OM2, I had a 17mm lens so that filled the super-wide category.
I know also that some folks use a 7-14 whether Oly or Pany (the former being better but more expensive and heavier).
Has anyone heard of any potential new lenses to fill this gap, and what do people use and recommend when they go super-wide?
I currently use an EM1 and an EP5, with 12mm, 25mm, 45mm, 60mm, Samyang Fisheye lenses and 9-18mm 43, 12-40 pro and 75-300mm zooms.
I also have the pancake 12-42 for use at parties or social events.
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

You can try having a look at the Laowa 7.5/2





And of course there is Panorama Photography if you want it wide without that stretching.

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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

Another vote for the Laowa 7.5, I have one and am very pleased with it! Took it on a workshop with Tesni Ward and she had a bit of a go with it and decided it was very good as well!
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

Yes, that looks good if I can find roughly £500.
As for stitching panoramas, I am not going to be taking my tripod as it is a family hol to Norway. I don't know if panoramas are poss or desirable without it.
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

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Yes, that looks good if I can find roughly £500.
As for stitching panoramas, I am not going to be taking my tripod as it is a family hol to Norway. I don't know if panoramas are poss or desirable without it.
I do panoramas hand held and the Lightroom panorama stitching coped with all but one Iíve done! And that was due to power cables running diagonally through it - it was only the cables it couldnít cope with!
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

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Yes, that looks good if I can find roughly £500.
As for stitching panoramas, I am not going to be taking my tripod as it is a family hol to Norway. I don't know if panoramas are poss or desirable without it.
I take lots of hand-held panoramas, especially during family holidays. Just try to keep the camera in the same place while rotating gently in your hand. Leave a fairly generous overlap between frames, to give the stitching software something to work on. I use the (free) Microsoft ICE software for stitching and find it very good at matching colour and brightness at the join(s). There are various different choices for the final projection of the image as well. In some ways, it's better than using a super-wide, because you avoid too much sky and foreground, but your subject has to be stationary, of course.
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

One of the reasons I switched away from Olympus for panoramic work was the lack of top quality Olympus WA lenses, which was made worse by the x2 crop factor. Olympus M4/3rds though is brilliant for long lenses and wildlife shooting

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I have a 7Artizans 7.5mm f/2.8 that is excellent value for money and produces very good quality images. I defish them with DxO viewpoint and it works very well.

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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

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There seems to be few to choose from in M4/3. I have the Samyang fisheye and I still use my 43 9-18mm, which I have not changed to the m43 as I believe that the 43 version is at least as good and probably better.
I know there is a Samyang 10mm, which looks pretty heavy and there is an enormously expensive Voigtlander at 10.5mm, but there isn't anything else that is not a fisheye. Wouldn't it be good to have a Prime 8,9, or 10 mm from Oly or Pany that was not a fisheye?
With my OM2, I had a 17mm lens so that filled the super-wide category.
I know also that some folks use a 7-14 whether Oly or Pany (the former being better but more expensive and heavier).
Has anyone heard of any potential new lenses to fill this gap, and what do people use and recommend when they go super-wide?
I currently use an EM1 and an EP5, with 12mm, 25mm, 45mm, 60mm, Samyang Fisheye lenses and 9-18mm 43, 12-40 pro and 75-300mm zooms.
I also have the pancake 12-42 for use at parties or social events.
I have the PanaLeica 8-18mm, no complaints thus far, relatively small and lightweight
for a f/2.8-4.0 lens.
Can also use filters with no special adapters, a definite bonus over the Olympics 7-14
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

I keep thinking about the Laowa 7.5 and then think will Olympus do their own version with auto focus.
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

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I keep thinking about the Laowa 7.5 and then think will Olympus do their own version with auto focus.
If it's 7.5mm isn't everything in focus whether you like it or not? :-)
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

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Yes, that looks good if I can find roughly £500.
As for stitching panoramas, I am not going to be taking my tripod as it is a family hol to Norway. I don't know if panoramas are poss or desirable without it.
I too do a lot of handheld panorama. Sometimes just a 2 or 3 photo stitch.

Just do a brief read on Nodal point and you would know briefly on what to do and what not to do.


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If it's 7.5mm isn't everything in focus whether you like it or not? :-)
With poor eyesight and no AF, one can still bugger it..believe me, I did just that


This is a 3 shot handheld stitched photo
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Re: Shortage of Prime Utlra Wides

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If it's 7.5mm isn't everything in focus whether you like it or not? :-)
Pretty much yes!

But it does do close focus so itís possible to muck it up!
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Wouldn't it be good to have a Prime 8,9, or 10 mm from Oly or Pany that was not a fisheye?
OK, so a serious question - I'm not looking to criticise your desires....

Why do you want a UWA prime? Unless you're doing wide-field astrophotography (where the widest aperture possible is essential) I can't see what a prime offers over a zoom. There's no advantage of a UWA fast prime in terms of DOF control and for landscape/cityscape etc a fast shutter speed is usualy of no real advantage (I usually want the longest possible ). Moreover, a zoom will offer much better framing possibilities. Is it a size/weight thing you want to achieve?
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OK, so a serious question... Why do you want a UWA prime? ...
Because it will be smaller and lighter than my Oly 7-14mm F/2.8 PRO. Really its an emergency small and light lens for when I don't want to cart the zoom around.
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