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Crummock water weir

I took this shot this afternoon at Crummock water stood on a wobbly bridge that my Dog kept walking on. 4 stop filter used.


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Re: Crummock water weir

So to help me understand the geography, is Buttermere positioned somewhere over your left shoulder?
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Re: Crummock water weir

Well, having done a little research, it seems I'm about 180 degrees wrong! That the weir is at the Loweswater end of Crummock Water.

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Re: Crummock water weir

Glad to of some help Brian.
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Re: Crummock water weir

It looks sort of unbalanced to me. Don't know if a different viewpoint would be possible?
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It looks sort of unbalanced to me. Don't know if a different viewpoint would be possible?
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Re: Crummock water weir

Lovely light, and I like the movement of the water. The background is a photograph on its own. And that, I think, is where the problem lies. You've got this great lump of metal caging intruding into the background and leading my eye to a tiny orange-dot building. Then my eye stops and tries to make out what it is.

If you could have stood on tip-toes and had the top of the caging below the shoreline of the lake, that might have helped. But then, you would have your background and your foreground - which might as well be two pictures !

So, cut the picture in half - the lake shot, and the foreground wier shot. And take one or the other, but not both together in the same frame.

What do you think ?

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Re: Crummock water weir

Well Kami
Holding a camera still for 1 second above your head is quite difficult as far as I know.
My tripods legs could not spread fully at half height let alone above head height.

I did take this from a different angle


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Re: Crummock water weir



Like the second shot more than the first !

Okay, so how do we separate the elements of the first picture without resorting to carrying a stepladder, or growing an extra foot taller, or whatever ?!

You could do several short exposures hand-held above your head or suchlike, then merge the water part, and keep the sharpest pontoon part. Would give an okay result, but time-consuming processing.

Or else focus on only part of the weir and try to eliminate the metal bit where it clashes with the horizon ... ?

Is there anywhere else in the vicinity you could take a long-exposure shot from now that we've tried to remove the need for the beautiful background ? On the metal pontoon, or on one of those walls, say ?
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Re: Crummock water weir

I have kept coming back to this shot over the last couple of days or so. There is something about it that is fascinating. There is a tension in the subject matter - the ominous power of the industrial foreground contrasting with the natural scale and power of the mountains in the background. The power of water confined but breaking free.

I agree with some of the comments already made. There are several criss-crossing horizontals that a different vantage point might untangle - the skyline, the lake edge, the weir, the bridge.

As it stands I think it simplifies a little by cropping the left just inside the orange building and from the top to lose the intruding branch.

But a fascinating shot nicely worked. Thanks for posting it.
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Re: Crummock water weir

The orange building is a boat house with new wooden doors.


I would rather have been here though


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Re: Crummock water weir

Hello Alf,
I like your shot with the water equipment included in the foreground, the blur on the water is just right to suggest the fast flow of the water through the sluice. An improvement I would make would be to get the top of the bridge below the horizon line of the lake as it breaks up the line across the picture. However as you have explained you could not get a higher viewpoint. Another tiny point is the hill on the right is quite dark and intrudes into the shot, I know it will be hard to get it balanced without burning out the rest of the shot. If I turn up the brightness on my monitor there is detail there so it may just be the way I am seeing it.
In Scotland many lochs have been adapted for water supplies and Hydro power, I find that most of them have blended into the landscape pretty well and I like visiting them as they sometimes give good viewpoints for photos. Loch Katrine (Glasgow's water supply) is one of my favourite places particularly at the Stronachlacher end.
If you had posted just the panorama I would have said it is a great shot but having seen the first one I like the foreground interest even more.
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Re: Crummock water weir

Like the 1st & last image they hold my attention better
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Hello Alf,
I like your shot with the water equipment included in the foreground, the blur on the water is just right to suggest the fast flow of the water through the sluice. An improvement I would make would be to get the top of the bridge below the horizon line of the lake as it breaks up the line across the picture. However as you have explained you could not get a higher viewpoint. Another tiny point is the hill on the right is quite dark and intrudes into the shot, I know it will be hard to get it balanced without burning out the rest of the shot. If I turn up the brightness on my monitor there is detail there so it may just be the way I am seeing it.
In Scotland many lochs have been adapted for water supplies and Hydro power, I find that most of them have blended into the landscape pretty well and I like visiting them as they sometimes give good viewpoints for photos. Loch Katrine (Glasgow's water supply) is one of my favourite places particularly at the Stronachlacher end.
If you had posted just the panorama I would have said it is a great shot but having seen the first one I like the foreground interest even more.
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Thanks for that Jim very interesting stuff.

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Like the 1st & last image they hold my attention better
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Re: Crummock water weir

Quite a nice shot but not the best crop or composition IMHO

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