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Standard zoom and mid range Lenses with focal lengths larger than 12mm, but no longer than 60mm, includes standard zooms and portrait primes plus some macro lenses.

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Old 16th September 2013
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

The 12-60 will always be a damn fine lens with a great range, despite the new kid on the block.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

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Thanks for that - there are some comments on the same topic on FTU now.

I have shot some comparisons between the Panny 12-35 and 12-40 as well as the 12-60 in better light and will sort them out and upload tomorrow.

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Thanks Ian & his is of much more knowledgeable content than mine, but I was a little surprised at the result. It will be interesting to see how the 12-40 lens performs on the E-M5 & I wonder if Oly now needs to do any firmware updates on the E-M5 & PENs or if what we get with them is what we get.

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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

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Gosh Ian...Sunday Roast??? Haven't had one of those for a long time...can I come over for din din??
It seems to me to be a die-hard practice for the British because we had the same in Australia for a long time as Dad was English, although it was at lunch time (midday).
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

Thanks for the comparisons Ian. Not much between these lenses, splitting hairs I would say.

I was able to try out an EM-1 at Clifton Camera's at the weekend and put my name down for one. At last we have a Camera from Olympus that is a worthy successor for 43 lens users.

I tried the 11-22 and 50-200 + EC-14. Didn't get a chance to try my 14-54 but would love to see some controlled side by side comparisons done with these older lenses on the EM-1. My tests were not as controlled as I would have liked and I made a mess of the 11-22 shots as I tried too sort out all the settings and get used to the Camera but my primary concern was would they focus well. The answer is yes, and given it was a very dull day I was impressed.

I was very impress with the way the EM-1 handled the 50-200 EC-14 combo, and comparison shots between it and the 75-300 left me in no doubt as to which was the best combo, by a huge margin I would say with just focus speed of the 75-300 wining out. I also tried the 12, 45 and 75 mm lenses and I brought my 100 2.8 OMZ manual focus lens to try out how easy it was for me to focus it. Again I was very impressed and can see my vast range of OMZ lenses getting some use again. All in all the best Camera Oly has released since the OM3 Ti
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

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Thanks for the comparisons Ian. Not much between these lenses, splitting hairs I would say.
I notice that the 12-40mm isn't as impressive at 60mm I take a fair amount of my shots at the long end of this lens, so despite the 12-40mm edging it in definition, weight, bulk, focus speed (perhaps) etc., I'd be frustrated at its lack of reach. Maybe its a ploy by Olympus to get us to buy the new 40-150 too

In my very limited time with the EM 1 at Sheffield I was very impressed with focus speed on the 12-60 over my E3, particularly on moving subjects (traffic, pedestrians). I was even more impressed with the focus speed on the ED 75-300 compared to the hunting on the E3, but what impressed me most was the lack of camera shake at 300mm. It was by no means an extensive test of the stabilization, but early impressions look very encouraging indeed.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

Great set of comparisons, and thanks to PeterMG for the bump : I missed the thread first time around.

Edit: the Jpegs at 12mmF5.6 seem to show the 12-40 is subjected to very formal straightening, and/or the old 12-60 isn't,
plus the old 12-60 is wider : interesting : considering that unless the tripod was moved, the front of the 12-60 lens was actually closer to the target.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

There is more to come! Just not had time to organise the latest shots...

An article on FTU will document all the samples.

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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

Hi there.

I know this is an old thread but I'm currently considering getting a 12-60 for my E-M1 since there is a huge difference on current prices between that and the 12-40.

My only worry is the barrel distortion. Is it just me or at 12mm f2.8, the 12-60mm suffers a lot more from distortion than the 12-40? can this be corrected further?

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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

Even though the image results are very similar there is one BIG difference size/weight.
I have just spent three weeks with my em1 and 12-40 with grip doing a trip round Tasmania and I can tell you for certain It was a much more pleasant experience than lugging my e5 / grip and 12-60.
If the images are as good as I expect when doing PP then I will buy another em1 and go all micro, the experience has been that good for me.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

I have the 12-60 and to be honest I don't even think about it. It is a fine lens although it is bulky, especially with the MMF3 on my E-M1. I have contemplated moving to the 12-40 but I figure that it will cost me maybe 500+ more plus I would lose 20mm at the long end. Maybe there will be some deals at the NEC at the Photography Show.
But to recap, I wouldn't worry about the distortion, just get and enjoy the 12-60. It is supposed to be the best standard zoom lens from any manufacturer.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

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Hi there.

I know this is an old thread but I'm currently considering getting a 12-60 for my E-M1 since there is a huge difference on current prices between that and the 12-40.

My only worry is the barrel distortion. Is it just me or at 12mm f2.8, the 12-60mm suffers a lot more from distortion than the 12-40? can this be corrected further?

Thanks!
In my experience the 12-60 suffers from a complex distortion that can be partially corrected in viewer - but it leaves a bit of simple pincushion that can be corrected in most editors, making full correction a two stage process. Having said that the distortion is not usually visible in most shots (interiors are an exception) and the 12-60 is undoubtedly a truly excellent lens.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

I'm not commenting on optical performance, but thanks to a good deal at SRS I had the opportunity to change from the Panny 12-35 to the Oly 12-40. The Oly is just so well engineered. Better than the Panasonic. And yes, better made than the 12-60. It feels like it is turned from one solid billet of metal.
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

I always thought the Pana 12-35 felt well engineered, so that sounds good. Sadly though, the 12-40 only has a metal skin over mainly plastic construction, as shown by the various cut in half shots around, and the odd one that has had the mount screws pull out of the plastic body. It's hard to believe this would happen without some force though.

The 12-35 may be the same? I'm sticking with my Panny pair for now (12-35 and 35-100), as I'm still very happy with them, and the E-M1 removes the CA from the JPGs.

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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

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There is more to come! Just not had time to organise the latest shots...

An article on FTU will document all the samples.

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Thanx for the 12-40 vs 12-60 comparison Ian, brilliant...
I would be curious to see the comparison with the 12-35 as well, but unfortuantely I couldn't figure out what does the "An article on FTU will document all the samples" means... I search the forum up & down but no luck (yet)... I would really appreciate some help... Thanx in advance...
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Re: Comparing the new 12-40 Pro with the 12-60 SWD on an E-M1

Now that we have some better weather and I have a 12-40, 12-35 and 12-60 all at the same time I will re-shoot the samples (especially as the original 12-60 sample quality wasn't 100%).

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