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Looking to upgrade...

I'm looking to add another camera in the next 3-4 months.
I'm currently torn between the E-3 and the E-30 and was wondering if anyone has any pros-cons for/against either?

( you can read as many reviews as you like, but they do not replace real user experience's)

I'm also in 2 minds as to just sell everything and go down the OM-D route...
As much as I like the 4/3 range, I think Olympus and other manufacturers are going to slowly kill it off... good if your after a bargain though!

I'm currently using a E-620, which I find very usable... though somewhat noisey at the higher ISO end.

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Re: Looking to upgrade...

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I'm looking to add another camera in the next 3-4 months.
I'm currently torn between the E-3 and the E-30 and was wondering if anyone has any pros-cons for/against either?

( you can read as many reviews as you like, but they do not replace real user experience's)

I'm also in 2 minds as to just sell everything and go down the OM-D route...
As much as I like the 4/3 range, I think Olympus and other manufacturers are going to slowly kill it off... good if your after a bargain though!

I'm currently using a E-620, which I find very usable... though somewhat noisey at the higher ISO end.

Thanks

Chris
Hi Chris.
I'm afraid I've not owned either the E-3 or E-30 but have had an E-600 which was IMHO the best 4/3 camera I had.

You've not said WHY you want to add another camera. Is it to provide a backup or for some aspects of photography that you feel the E-620 does not address adequately?
The only slightly negative comment you make about the E-620 is high ISO noise and I can't see either the E-3 or E-30 which are both older designs than the E-620 giving you anything better.
If you simply want a backup another E-620 (or E-600) would be the solution.

If high ISO noise is your concern then the OM-D (or the E-PL5 which has the same Sony sensor) would be the solution.

FWIW I moved from the E-600 to the OM-D and have been absolutely delighted with it, it certainly beats everything else hands down on noise. I also bought a refurbished E-PL1 body (for 99) as a backup/pocket camera. I previously didn't think I would get on with a PEN but have been pleasantly surprised by the E-PL1.

Not sure if this helps but may give you something to think about.

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Re: Looking to upgrade...

Good evening Peter and thanks for the comments, very useful...
Yes the main reason is for a backup, and my son has expressed a bit of an interest too.

I was considering the E-3-30 as the current average 2nd hand prices seemed to have dropped by £50-80 since December and I have seen a number of each in the 250 - 300 range... but still have a strong urge to head down the OM-D path, that I guess would mean an almost complete re-investment in lenses etc.

I have been looking at the PEN range also... decisions decisions!
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

Chris,
Echoing what Peter has said, in essence. I've got a 620 and I'm very pleased with it, concerns about high ISO performance notwithstanding. I recently bought an EP2 as a back-up and also to enable me to have a camera in my pocket a little more often, due to it being far smaller than the 620. Early days but I'm more than happy with the results.
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

I bought an OM-D E-M5 last April and I have been very pleased with it. I particularly love the 45mm f1.8 which I have used to take pictures of my cat's face from quite close and with no flash. If you did buy new UK stock from an authorised dealer there is an offer at the moment where you get a free grip (some people find the E-M5 uncomfortable to hold without a grip) or with a free 45mm lens (and with a free spare battery in either case). Check the ads for dates and conditions.
I have also recently bought an E-30 and various four-third lenses. The E-30 is a fair bit bigger than the E-620 (as well as heavier) and the E-3 is even more heavy.
But the main reason for posting is to remind you that your four-third lenses can be used on a micro-four-thirds body with an adapter so you wouldn't necessarily need to start again from scratch with your lens collection if you went with an E-M5. Having said that, a lens like the 14-54mm f2.8-3.5 II feels huge and heavy compared with the 12-50mm f3.5-6.3 kit lens, but it lets in a lot of light.
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

I bought an XZ-1 compact to go with my E-620 its hard to tell the images apart at times its a great litle camera.
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

Another low noise backup might be the epm1 or 2, which use the same battery as the 620.
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

I had thought about using an adapter... not sure how the OM-D would handle with a 50-200mm or the 400 Sigma ... might be a bit front heavy :-)
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

I don't have either of those, but the grip might help to balance things. This month's issue of What Digital Camera has a review of the grip (I am not sure whether the text is available on-line). There is also a video at
http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/new...tery-grip.html
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Re: Looking to upgrade...

Chris,

I have an E620 which has been stood down to "back up" status since I got an E5. I have not had an E3 or E30 so I can't comment on them directly. I mainly got the E5 because we had so much rain!

So far as noise is concerned, the E620 is worse than the E5, E-P1 and E-P2. The E3 or E30 will, I expect, be worse still as the have an older processor.

I always shoot RAW and I used to PP in CS2, with a 3rd party noise plug in. Working this way, the E620 had to be limited to ISO 400.

Now I PP in LR 4, the noise whose reduction capability is excellent. I now usually use AUTO ISO with an upper limit of 1600 on the E5 and the PENs or 1250 for the E620.

Another solution perhaps...
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It seems that I am not the only one getting improved performance by new PP software, this from DPR:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50875367
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