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Old 22nd November 2010
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Soft as hell but pleased I've finally managed to get a shot of one. They come over our house several times a day, but getting a shot of one is difficult!

Used the OMZ 135mm @f3.5, guesstimated focus (hence softness) and used ISO 400 to give a shitter speed of 1/4000 to stand a chance of getting a shot!
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Re: Hawk Jet

Good capture though.. I bet it was moving in the Field of view at that range

It reminds me of the pics I took of the police helicopters who were using the river at the back of our house as a navigation aid so we had them about 8 times a day.

I was told that they were not flying low over the area so the next Police / community meeting I took a few pictures in which you could clearly see the pilots face. Shortly after that I saw they were flying much higher

I never admitted to using a 1200 mirror lens (effective 2400mm) which I bought on this forum

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Re: Hawk Jet

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Soft as hell but pleased I've finally managed to get a shot of one. They come over our house several times a day, but getting a shot of one is difficult!

Used the OMZ 135mm @f3.5, guesstimated focus (hence softness) and used ISO 400 to give a shitter speed of 1/4000 to stand a chance of getting a shot!
Well done for grabbing the shot.......however the above really made me laugh!

Thanks for the giggle!

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Re: Hawk Jet

Ahhh, an RAF Valley Hawk.

Just wish I had been into photography when I was at Valley. Being a Radar/Comms tekky I used to work on the nav aids on the station and the photo opportunities would have been incredible. We would often have to wait for a clear crossing across the runways and runway thresholds, being just metres from the aircraft as they passed. Mind you, did get a bit noisy

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Well done for grabbing the shot.......however the above really made me laugh!

Thanks for the giggle!

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Oops,

Wouldn't be my first forum gaffe!

My dad would have loved that job Steve, he loves aircraft, and unlike all the Nimbys round this way we're perfectly happy looking down on the trainers as they dive into the valley below our house!

(I will get a shot of that one day!)
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Re: Hawk Jet

If you go down to RAF Valley's station entrance and follow the road around to the right towards Llanfairyneubwll you should be able to get some really good shots of the aircraft coming in to land (depending on the wind and the runway they're using at the time). There is a hill there (Tacan hill we used to call it) that the aircraft fly over as they land, so you might have to explore a bit to get the best angles.

The other end of the runway at Rhosneigr is a little further away from the road but, with a long lens, you should be able to get some superb shots as the aircraft become airborn coming towards you.

At air shows these days nobody, even those with special passes, could ever get to the positions, and as close to the aircraft, as we could being in the RAF.

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Re: Hawk Jet

Just to annoy everyone.
The Machynlleth Loop.
How low can you go?

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true

This site has the best most comprehensive set of aircraft photos you'll ever come across and at a standard tomake you wonder how they do it.
I've tried a few aircraft photos, they don't half move fast and I obviously don't.

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^ Visited there last year in October and struck lucky with quite a variety of aircraft and also the F15 swan-song farewell flypast. When you see some of the finished shots that are doing the rounds you can really appreciate the expertise that some of these guy's and gal's have acheived. If you ever decide to go you will meet up with a great set of people who are only too willing to share their knowledge... even to duffers and old fart's like myself.

Be aware that it ain't only a steep learning curve it's also a steep climb for some locations. Decent positions at Cad West and The Bwlch take some getting to but worth every laboured breath.

This one popped up from behind the ridge Dinas Bwlch and was gone in under 30 seconds.
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Very nice shot of the C130. Couldn't find Dinas Bwlch on the map, where abouts is it?

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Very nice shot of the C130. Couldn't find Dinas Bwlch on the map, where abouts is it?

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Mach Loop area I based myself at Dolgellau. The Bwlch is to the east of Dolgellau on the A470. Cad E and Cad W along with Corris Corner are on the A487 leading south towards the lake. Just use the blue camera signs to get the locations. Each location has its own unique viewpoint. Different times of the day, especially at Corris Corner can give some excellent results with the lake as a backdrop.

The Bwlch and Cad West are great viewpoint but you need to be half goat to get there.
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Re: Hawk Jet

Cheers Wally, I just tracked it down just as you posted this. Must make a trip up there next year

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Cheers Wally, I just tracked it down just as you posted this. Must make a trip up there next year

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Better get some practice in on the quick draw. It's incredible the speed of approach and at times the footing can be somewhat dicey. It also doesn't help when you don't know from where they're coming from, so if possible try to team up with one of the regulars. Many of them have the frequencies monitored which is a great help. Oh yes, no matter how big yours is, someone will have one much bigger... the lenses that is.
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Better get some practice in on the quick draw. It's incredible the speed of approach and at times the footing can be somewhat dicey. It also doesn't help when you don't know from where they're coming from, so if possible try to team up with one of the regulars. Many of them have the frequencies monitored which is a great help. Oh yes, no matter how big yours is, someone will have one much bigger... the lenses that is.
Thanks Wally. I didn't know about this but it seems to be a very popular spot. A little mountain climbing is right up my street so really looking forward to getting up there.

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Dad was saying when they go up Cader Idris with the kids at college theres often several photographers at the top overlooking Llyn Tal Y Llyn, a fantastic place regardless of aircraft. One day I will join them and see what I can do, although I think a 40-150 in CAF may be more sited unless it's a bright day when the 135 can be used stopped down and focussed to infinity.
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Re: Hawk Jet

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Soft as hell but pleased I've finally managed to get a shot of one. They come over our house several times a day, but getting a shot of one is difficult!

Used the OMZ 135mm @f3.5, guesstimated focus (hence softness) and used ISO 400 to give a shitter speed of 1/4000 to stand a chance of getting a shot!
Looking at your photo Alan, I think that I know what you did wrong and how to improve the shot.
You're using a OMZ 135mm which is a vintage lens. When using a vintage lens:
1. focus as sharp as you possibly can with that lens
2. go down on your ISO from ISO 400 to ISO 100
3. set your aperture from f3.5 to f5.6 or to 6.3 or even as high as f8
4. your shutter speed will drop from 1/4000 to an estimated 1/350 to 1/500 depending on the light conditions, but that's ok. you're photographing towards the sky. It's better to under expose a bit. You can correct that in PP
5. set your metering mode to spot metering
6. pan along with the plane. During the panning motion hit your shutter and continue panning after you released your shutter.

By revving up your aperture you'll change your DOF. Which in turn will make your photo sharper, thus making your subject sharper. I noticed that your background was sharp but that you subject was only partly sharp. Look below at this photo of mine to see what I mean:

Olympus Zuiko ED 40-150mm @142mm @ f9.0, ISO100, Shutter speed 1/500

Also read my full article Photographing Airplanes.
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