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OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

I read elsewhere, contentiously:

"An OMD with the 12-100 lens is effectively an over-priced bridge camera".


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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

My response was "more highly priced and also more highly specified than a bridge camera".

But it's an interesting point, given that some people say how rarely they switch to another lens.
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

I can agree with the sentiment, but that's true of a high proportion of interchangeable lens cameras, including 35mm frame size DSLRs, where people buy it and never change the lens.
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

How is it different than, say, a Tamron 16-300mm superzoom on a full frame DSLR?

Oh, of course - it has a larger maximum aperture, constant throughout the zoom range and indisputably better image quality that puts the Olympus combination into a different league. Obviously it is relatively big and heavy, but that's why we have the option of the 12-40mm.
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

For some types of photography that's probably a fair statement. But the same could be said of a really expensive camera like the Leica SL + 24-90 (a cool £7k at most retailers). So what?

But as Graham's thread on this article pointed out, in favourable conditions almost any quality camera will deliver results that no-one can distinguish apart. The more important question to ask is "what's the shooting envelope of the camera system as a whole"? Clearly the OMD + 12-100 (and other lenses) delivers MUCH more than a bridge camera (lenses, features, AF, speed, IQ in poorer light, ...).
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

The last 'bridge' camera I used was a Lumix FZ200 and I realise that more recent models have larger sensors but are bigger and heavier.

My main problem was that, although it was very convenient having such a wide-range lens always available, this was seriously offset by slowness of operation. I'd have had time to change lenses in the time it took for the camera to start up, slowly wind out the zoom, and find focus. I missed so many shots that I gave up on 'bridges'.

I suspect an OMD with 12-100 has a much better 'hit rate' and, for me, that's well worth the price
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

For many years zoom lens designs limited the range to less than 3 for the optimal image quality. The 14-35 f/2.0 35-100 f/2.0 90-250 f/2.8 were acknowledged by almost everyone as being about as good as it gets.

By the time mft was developed, lens design had moved on to provide slightly more range and the 12-40 f/2.8 40-150 f/2.8 were the top performers with the 7-14 f/2.8 maintaining its 2x ratio, but within a faster optic.

The move to f/4.0 lens design provides for significant opportunities for increasing the zoom range, while maintaining image quality. However it is still design optimisations that have limited the range to about the 5 times, which the old FT 12-60 was a super example.

Personally I have found myself using the Panasonic 14-140 ii on a GX8 for my walk about kit and the dual IS produces surprisingly good quality images, unless you study them corner to corner...

Ultimately it is always going to be personal choice and acceptance of the compromise for convenience. When I work in a studio or on location then it’s straight back to prime lenses, which I only have to carry short distance.

Given some “bridge cameras” are offering 40x zooms, plus macro, pop-up flash, I consider there is enough difference and a better IQ to not see the 12-100 in this category.

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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

I suspect anyone that buys an interchangeable lens camera and never changes lenses is better off with a fixed lens option but people make their own choices.

I'd argue that anyone buying a 4x4 who never tows or goes off road would be better with an estate or saloon but you pay your money, you take your choice.



Olympus have recently started selling the OM-D E-M10iii with the 12-200 zoom as a kit.
https://shop.olympus.eu/en_GB/camera...i-12-200mm-kit

At a grand it's a chunk of money and I can't see the appeal personally but that covers a lot of ground.
I would hope that the 4/3rds sensor would put it a step above most bridges even at that price point but I wouldn't know for sure.
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

The huge zoom range of the 12-100 means it can be used in a similar way to bridge cameras. It will give better results than most (if not all) of them used in this way.


To me though the big difference is the lens CAN be changed if circumstances require it such as for low light shots, or to try a fisheye...
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

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...To me though the big difference is the lens CAN be changed if circumstances require it such as for low light shots, or to try a fisheye...
Exactly. There are times when you want the best lens for the photo opportunity in front of you and will switch to that lens and there are times when you DON'T want to change lenses (personal and equipment security, time, framing options, etc) when the 12-100 or may I suggest the 12-200 are the best tools for the job.
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Re: OMD + 12-100 an overpriced bridge camera?

Great points.

As far as I'm aware the biggest sensor on a bridge camera is 1 inch / 20MPixel, and 4/3rds is over 75% larger (though still 20 MPixel). I'm guessing this is also significant.


Personally even though I use the 12-100 a lot, I'm glad I have the option of switching to the 60mm macro, the Sigma 30/1.4, the Four thirds 50-200 and various other options.
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