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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

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You could try a test shot of the approximate area you want to photograph. See the results. Another thing, try that IR focus assist if you are using the Oly's flash but turn off that strobe. Does that RED focus light still available on the newer flash?
Thanks, I went ahead and did a test shot using the camera on a P setting with the flash and yes, the red light came on.

No sightings of the mongoose last as we had a robber visit us at 2 a.m. He did not get into the house. Last time he came, he arrived with a gang dressed as police. They got into my Mother-Law's house next door and tried to behead her. She had to undergo many operations to repair her head and neck. Her husband died from injuries the following day. The cowards beat him up even he was dying from cancer and he was chair bound. Last night there was too much activity for the mongoose to visit, as we had the police and guards on increased patrols, going round, up and down through the night.

the test shot on 20 June.....f/4 1/60 ISO 1600 14mm

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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

Sad to hear that. I have heard of violence there but never knew it was that bad. Please stay safe.
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The Mongoose isn't going to attack you unless you corner it and try to grab it. If it senses you're there it'll run away.


Photographing animals in the dark can be rather challenging. Even if you have a powerful enough flash you have the problem of how to focus the camera. Many years ago, before I located their sett, I used to photograph Badgers in the dark. The method I used was to put down a handful of peanuts then focus the camera on that spot whilst I still had light. It was then a matter of waiting, often for hours, for a Badger to come along and find the peanuts.

But without a decent flash that option probably won't work for you. What you could try is to set the camera up outside with a wide-angle lens set to manual focus and use hyperfocal focusing to set a really deep depth of field. Then trigger the camera from a distance using OI Share if/when the Mongoose moves into the in-focus area.
Thank you and thanks again for your experiences in taking photos at night, the badgers and the peanut bait, most kind.

Depending on the setting, a flash is not always required. An example is here from a photo I shot in reflected light from a floodlit water hole in East Tsavo. I did not want to spook or stampede the elephants with the flash going off......

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Could you run a mains cable from a plug in dimmer to a tungsten bulb near to where they will be? That way you could build up some illumination without startling them. Or maybe put a battery operated PIR light down there that will trigger when they are in the area. They will soon get used to it.
I forgot to say how we have sliding patio glass doors and just before dark, I saw the mongoose standing up on its hind feet, peering in. We both saw each other and it was not freaked out by my appearance. Whilst I am in the UK, I may well get a trail camera and set it up when I get back. It certainly would be useful to see the other wild life at night: Porcupines, Aardvark, Leopard, rats, wild dogs, to name a few. Thank you for your suggestions to put up a battery operated PIR light or run a mains cable/tungsten light.

Its most kind of you and everyone to help with these useful suggestions and advice
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Sad to hear that. I have heard of violence there but never knew it was that bad. Please stay safe.
And what is sad, is that we get hardened to it and we have to keep weapons and firearms in the house to protect ourselves. It is a beautiful country, but it has a dark side to it and that is crime. I suspect the intruder was scouting for his gang as it is the 2nd time he has visited in the past 2 weeks. He got away last night. What is crime like where you are?
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https://www.ukwildlifecameras.co.uk/...eras_C135.html

Phil, I bought a Browning Trail Camera (not a gun!!) off these people in the link above.

They have a super range of Trail cameras to suit your pocket and circumstances. I can recommend them...

A photo taken off a video shows the quality.....
Hi Mark, thank you for the link and for the sample video photo. I liked the clarity from the still you captured. I looked at the website for wild life cameras. Lots of reading and decision making. We had CCTV at the house in London which had wifi so I could keep an eye on the house whilst I was in Kenya. I left the CCTV behind when I moved from London to Bristol last November. It came with hard drive and a 500MB memory, which lasted for 3 months before it rolled over. I left the cameras up on the house and took the hard drive with me to Bristol. My wife said I was not to go up the ladder to remove the cameras. I obeyed

What sort of memory do you have on yours?
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And what is sad, is that we get hardened to it and we have to keep weapons and firearms in the house to protect ourselves. It is a beautiful country, but it has a dark side to it and that is crime. I suspect the intruder was scouting for his gang as it is the 2nd time he has visited in the past 2 weeks. He got away last night. What is crime like where you are?
Can you shoot (with a gun) him (intruder)? I mean lawfully as he is in your compound or can you do that only if he is trying to break in?


The country of my residence, pretty ok but you need to be aware. If in town, just have to beware of snatch thieves. they come in motorbikes and just pull. Many cases where the victim was dragged by them. I hardly walk around alone with my camera around my neck. If I am going to do any street photography, I usually go around in a group.

House breakin and robbery do occur so does murders. Our gun control is very tight and not everyone can own any firearm. So I cannot shoot an intruder unless with a camera.

That flash shot even at ISO1600 is very clean
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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

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https://www.ukwildlifecameras.co.uk/...eras_C135.html

Phil, I bought a Browning Trail Camera (not a gun!!) off these people in the link above.

They have a super range of Trail cameras to suit your pocket and circumstances. I can recommend them...



A photo taken off a video shows the quality.....
It looks much better than the cheap one I bought. Which model is it?

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Can you shoot (with a gun) him (intruder)? I mean lawfully as he is in your compound or can you do that only if he is trying to break in?


The country of my residence, pretty ok but you need to be aware. If in town, just have to beware of snatch thieves. they come in motorbikes and just pull. Many cases where the victim was dragged by them. I hardly walk around alone with my camera around my neck. If I am going to do any street photography, I usually go around in a group.

House breakin and robbery do occur so does murders. Our gun control is very tight and not everyone can own any firearm. So I cannot shoot an intruder unless with a camera.

That flash shot even at ISO1600 is very clean
It depends on the circumstances and if the firearm is licensed or not. If it is not, even in self defense, if the case is proven against, it’s a lengthy prison sentence, but there are ways around this which I won’t go into. To hold a firearms certificate, it’s an annual thing. People with a history of mental illness would fail the application process. Outside of the city in the bush, it’s not an uncommon sight to see herdsmen guarding their cattle/livestock with AK47s. Thank you for replying about crime and street photography in your country and for your comment about the high ISO night shot, a big thank you, appreciated.
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It looks much better than the cheap one I bought. Which model is it?

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Its a BTC-SHDP....cost 150 or so I think. Yes quality very good. I tend to video. This still shot was extracted from the video.....
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Its a BTC-SHDP....cost 150 or so I think. Yes quality very good. I tend to video. This still shot was extracted from the video.....
Hmm - I checked on the site and it isn't listed.

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Looks like that site does not do Browning any more.

From the Browning web site (USA) they offer a BTC-5HDP, Maybe I misread the label, I will check....(I did)

https://browningtrailcameras.com/pro...20710747734129

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On Ebay for 131.99

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BROWNING-...gAAOSw70NdBlre
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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

Mongoose's were introduced to Hawaii many years ago. They scurry around the bushes during the day, unsure of their prey in Hawaii...……

Scraggy things really...…...

http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/hisc/info/inv...iles/mongoose/
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Re: How to snap a Mongoose at night without a flash?

From bill Myers....


Bill Myers Tip of the Week - June 22, 2019
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Why you'll want a trailcam in your back yard

After reading about the wildlife roaming our Florida neighborhood at
night, my wife said she wanted a game camera - one with a motion detector that
would automatically capture photos and videos of animals that passed by.

Not wanting to spend a lot of money, I opted for a weatherproof Olymbros IP65.
It has motion detection, night vision and can capture 16MP photos and 1080P
HD video.

I wasn't sure how much wildlife we have in our backyard or if the camera would
capture any images, but it has.

In fact, the first night it recorded video of two raccoons playing in one of
our palm trees. Since then, it has recorded videos of large tropical birds,
an alligator, and our lawn guy working in the yard.

The camera was $53.99 on Amazon, and so far, we've been impressed with the
images and videos it's captured.

You can see the raccoon video it captured at
https://www.bmyers.com/public/back-yard-trail-cam.cfm

After you watch it, you might want one of these cams in your back yard too. Or
one by your front door or overlooking your car.

We found the one we have on Amazon at https://amzn.to/2IUCqBp

Bill
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Hope that is some use information wise....
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Mongoose's were introduced to Hawaii many years ago. They scurry around the bushes during the day, unsure of their prey in Hawaii...……

Scraggy things really...…...

http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/hisc/info/inv...iles/mongoose/
Thanks Mark for the information about the Mongoose and the trail cameras. Since the increased patrols at night by the guards, I have not seen the Mongoose or the intruder come back. I discovered the place where the Mongoose family sleeps, behind a shed in the woods and down a hole not far from the house
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