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PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

I have now installed the above on my new laptop OMG

don`t know where to start so much you can do

Any ideas where I should start as was Previously using Photoshop 7 very old and Paint Shop Pro Photo x 2 again a few years old

Need tips and help to learn how to get the best out of this software
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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

PS Elements is not that different in essence from your old version of PS, although it looks quite different and has some whizzy new features.

Lightroom is a different matter entirely. It is very workflow oriented and needs a complete rethink of how you deal with digital images. Once you crack it you'll never look back and will be able to use it for nearly everything you do - maybe 95%? The other 5% will require Elements.

I suggest you start with Adobe's online tutorials for both products which will get you started. You might need a decent book on Lightroom.
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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

Ooh - what laptop did you get?

Lightroom - this might help: http://dpnow.com/7042.html

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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

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Ooh - what laptop did you get?

Lightroom - this might help: http://dpnow.com/7042.html

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Ian idid post in your previous thread i bought the HP Pavillion G6

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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

I totally agree that Lightroom will do nearly everything you want, and will do it better than PS elements - the only thing I now use PS for is things like cloning.

Shoot RAW to get the best from LR and buy a good book - the book by Martin Evening is very good and the ones by Scott Kelby are not bad if you can bear the jokey style.

The Adobe online videos are also pretty good, but they don't cover everything.

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Ian idid post in your previous thread i bought the HP Pavillion G6

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OK - which CPU and graphics does yours have?

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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

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I totally agree that Lightroom will do nearly everything you want, and will do it better than PS elements - the only thing I now use PS for is things like cloning.
As I am currently finding, LR doesn't do plugins 'properly'. I use a selection of plugins for sharpening and noise control. Elements will do these (and just about everything else btw) selectively, and the selection tools are very flexible. LR's selection functionality is basic, and you can only use a subset of the develop functions on those selections.

I don't need this stuff often, but when I need it, I need it.

Having said all that, LR does a lot of developing things MUCH better and it's a stunning bit of software.
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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

Hi

I must say never had any problems with plugins running in Lightroom, these include, Nik software, Topaz Labs and OnOne complete suite.

I'm using an iMac OS X snow leopard.

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I must say never had any problems with plugins running in Lightroom, these include, Nik software, Topaz Labs and OnOne complete suite.

I'm using an iMac OS X snow leopard.

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Sorry, my error - I'm actually talking about external editors where you need to access them from Photo/Edit menu and they are passed a copy of the file to work on.

I use Topaz in Elements - how does that integrate with LR?
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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

Hi

You need to download and install Topaz Fusion Express, then from within Lightroom right click any image and choose Edit in Topaz Fusion Express once this loads just choose the Topaz Plugin you want to use and the image will load in the Topaz Work Space.

Here is a video clip that explains all.

http://www.topazlabs.com/fusion/#1

Hope that helps.

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Re: PS Elements 10 & lightroom 4.1

That's the same as FocalBlade, it's not really integrated in the way a Photoshop plugin is, LR just copies the image and launches an external editor.

For example, in PS/Elements I can dip in an out of plugins to fix noise, lighting and whatever and it's part of the workflow. I can undo them, include them in actions, execute them on selections or layers etc. etc. There are no new files created. They are part of the program. That's how I see a plugin as working. The LR way is not like that, each time you want to run a plugin like this a new (large) file is created, with all that entails, and a program started up to process it. Adobe Bridge can do that!

I can see why things are this way, since LR works on RAW files and once it's converted the Bayer raw image to pass to the plugin , it can't change it back.
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OK - which CPU and graphics does yours have?

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Pavillion G6 1371

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with Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

Graphics card is integrated as i don`t do any video editing
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