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Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

So, after the lucrative job from hell (seven weeks in f'Kinshasa), I splashed out on an E-P5, from a South Korean seller with a good reputation. It seems above board (so I'm expecting a customs bill ), and the whole process inspired a little confidence (never used eBay before). I thought the risk worth taking....

Of course, feelings before committing are always different to feelings after committing. Erm, does anyone want to give me a warm feeling about this?
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

Don't worry until you have cause to! I have bought from USA, France, Japan, Ukraine on eBay without a hint of a problem.

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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

Am I correct, vat and duty payable on the total purchase price, including p+p and insurance if applicable?
I've looked into it, but unless the purchase realigned is a real saver, there's no point. Most times for the stuff I've been after I've done the sums and there's no benefit.
Most sellers wouldn't dream of losing reputation so I'm sure all will be fine.
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Am I correct, vat and duty payable on the total purchase price, including p+p and insurance if applicable?
I've looked into it, but unless the purchase realigned is a real saver, there's no point. Most times for the stuff I've been after I've done the sums and there's no benefit.
Most sellers wouldn't dream of losing reputation so I'm sure all will be fine.
That's correct. It took quite a bit of research, and I'm still not entirely sure what the final price will be! Process is:

- Vendor sticks correct documentation (with value) to box
- The courier in the UK (and I'm hoping it's Parcel Force) then notifies you of the customs bill (duty + import VAT + courier's handling charge).

If it's Parcel Force, I can have a leisurely stroll down to my local sorting office, cough up Her Maj's bit of the deal, and walk away with the package.

In this case, I think I'm looking at paying approx 300 less, for a new E-P5, than I would from a normal UK vendor (but let's wait and see).
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I have bought from USA, HK & Japan
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That's correct. It took quite a bit of research, and I'm still not entirely sure what the final price will be! Process is:

- Vendor sticks correct documentation (with value) to box
- The courier in the UK (and I'm hoping it's Parcel Force) then notifies you of the customs bill (duty + import VAT + courier's handling charge).

If it's Parcel Force, I can have a leisurely stroll down to my local sorting office, cough up Her Maj's bit of the deal, and walk away with the package.

In this case, I think I'm looking at paying approx £300 less, for a new E-P5, than I would from a normal UK vendor (but let's wait and see).
I think the "leisurely stroll" option might depend on which Parcelforce office serves your address. For me it is a 20 mile trip each way, and that is _after_ they have sent me a letter advising me that I have to pay up! Ten or so years ago they just delivered and collected the cash. No more.

All you could ever want to know about the system is documented in an HMRC guide here: http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000014

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I think the "leisurely stroll" option might depend on which Parcelforce office serves your address. For me it is a 20 mile trip each way, and that is _after_ they have sent me a letter advising me that I have to pay up! Ten or so years ago they just delivered and collected the cash. No more.

All you could ever want to know about the system is documented in an HMRC guide here: http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000014

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It would be similar for me but I just talk to my posty and he drops in a card with the costs on and the next day he brings the goods and swops them for a cheque!

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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

Buying from outside the EU can be very strange. I bought a chain retention device for a bike from a Californian firm, £25 or so in UK money. It arrived a couple of days later with the correct customs declarations and nothing to pay.
It was so good I decided to buy another for my wife's bike. That arrived with a bill from HMRC, via the Post office for another £25 attached! Had I known this could happen I'd not have bought the first one, but I'm still perplexed as to why they hit me for one item and not the other.
Lesson learned, I don't buy anything from outside of the EU without a very careful calculation of the duty these days.
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

I don't use eBay but have bought from the Far East and USA via Amazon.

Customs seem to be a hit or miss affair. All but one - the last - have come through Customs FOC. The last item I bought incurred a cost of just over £11 of which 2/3rds was RM charges.
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

Bought an FL-50R new from Greece on eBay with no problems, but that's EU. Years ago bought disposable contact lenses from a USA site for what seemed a good deal. Got hit with customs charges at Pot Office which made the deal far more than going to the opticians.
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

I have purchased from hong kong, china, usa europe and australia
as for customs it's all guess work and a load of oblox, they tried charging me for a boat engine part from the usa and I questioned it, asking them how they came to that figure as i had bought 2 and the first had no customs charge at all, after an aargument I said i was passing the info to my solicitor and the package arrived 2 days later with no charge ?
they just guess at a price and hope you won't argue the toss, just ask them for a breakdown of the customs charge and how they come to a figure and most of the time they haven't a clue ?
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

I only buy tiny things, like adapter rings and odd electronic gizmos.
Not had a customs add-on yet...
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Buying from outside the EU can be very strange. I bought a chain retention device for a bike from a Californian firm, 25 or so in UK money. It arrived a couple of days later with the correct customs declarations and nothing to pay.
It was so good I decided to buy another for my wife's bike. That arrived with a bill from HMRC, via the Post office for another 25 attached! Had I known this could happen I'd not have bought the first one, but I'm still perplexed as to why they hit me for one item and not the other.
Lesson learned, I don't buy anything from outside of the EU without a very careful calculation of the duty these days.
If you import goods from outside of the EU for a value of less than 18 (I think) Customs are not interested; which is why HMV operate(d) from the Channel Isles, and would always send CD's and DVD's singly, no matter how many you ordered. (Yes, the Channel Island are outside of the EU for tax purposes.)

If the item is worth a little more it might just get waved through if you're lucky, but otherwise you'll have to pay Import Duty (usually 10% I think, although it depends on the goods), plus VAT at 20% if applicable. You will also have to pay the couriers handling charge, which is currently 8.00 for Parcel Force.

There is another service operated by Pitney Bowes where you pay for shipping and duties up front, so there are no hidden charges.
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

You can be charged Vat and Duty (if applicable ) on the cost of crating and shipping. Can often add a many 10s of dollars to the bill.
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Re: Anyone bought equipment from outside the UK, on eBay?

I've just bought a lens from Japan that I couldn't find closer to home. Cost was 325. Parcelforce/HMRC want 50.19 (36.69 VAT and 13.50 "clearance fee") before they will deliver. Less than I was expecting and less than I would probably have had to pay a European seller. Up to now I have been sceptical about Far Eastern goods, so I checked the seller's eBay feedback as much as I could and so far there have been no problems. If the lens lives up to its photos, Monday should be a happy day.
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