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Just as well the E-M5 has a substantial grip!
Well the 300mm f/2.8 weighs 3.3kg so I can't see the new 650-1300mm f/2.8-5.6 weighing less than 12kg.
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Well the 300mm f/2.8 weighs 3.3kg so I can't see the new 650-1300mm f/2.8-5.6 weighing less than 12kg.
Gosh, David, you make it sound as good as made! Better get your Q/R plate sorted out quickly!
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Gosh, David, you make it sound as good as made! Better get your Q/R plate sorted out quickly!
Already sorted, I've got a suitable long lens plate from when I had a Nikkor 600mm converted to OM mount.
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Already sorted, I've got a suitable long lens plate from when I had a Nikkor 600mm converted to OM mount.
600mm? That's almost a wide-angle! This new Digital Zuiko 650-1300mm will be a real poke in the eye for Nikon, probably from about 12 feet!
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

Actually, the biggest problem with the 650-1300mm in use will probably be atmospheric haze, plus the curvature of the Earth, of course! Especially when using it with the EC-20!

With that thought, I'm going to bed!
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

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I've not used anything but manual and aperture priority for years.
Ian,

Ditto for me.

But i do think that a set of good primes would be more beneficial - as someone who has come from a time when primes were the only lenses in town !

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A dedicated WB button instead of having to use the Fn button as an alternative. I constantly seem to use Manual function using the Fn button,when Autofocus doesn't always appear to give the sharpness I expect it to do.

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a full frame Exxx model would be the one true option that will keep me with Oly.
- I must be dreaming again

In reality the list you compile could be endless. We have to live with what is available
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

Looking at the 650-1300mm, it can weight in at a comfortable 2.5kg to 3kg. Especially since Olympus uses mainly high grade plastics and or metallics such as light weight aluminium.
If you would go for a 650-1300mm f/2.8-5.6 with a diameter of, lets say, 105mm or 129mm and a drop in filter, it must be possible to keep the weight down to 2.5kg to 3kg. Mine Samyang/Delamax 650-1300mm is all metallic and weights 2 kg and has a diameter of 95mm but a f/8.0-16. And it's a MF. So adding an AF would add an additional 500 grams to the lens.

Regarding the batteries, from a environmental point of view it would be better to standardize them and the placing of the batteries in the cameras. You would use less raw materials, which in turn makes production costs lower, thus products can be sold cheaper and profits will go up. Especially wit a good marketing strategy as used by Nikon/Canon.

Also I think it would be a good thing to hold onto the full 4/3 DSLR's. Especially in the entry level segment market. Once people buy one of those entry level models, and the like them, they tend to buy the more expensive models also as their next camera. They already bought the lenses, so they are more likely to buy another Olympus DSLR as their next camera.
In General, people are creatures of habit and quite stuck to the brands they are used to and to what they have good experience with. Also when you have other products from the same make/brand, such as lenses that can be use on the next model, you are more likely to buy again from the same brand.

I guess, I've stirred up something here again. Looking at the posts here in the last 24 hrs.
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

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Akira Watanabe, who is a senior manager at Olympus in charge of development of their E-System DSLR platform, has asked me to create a list of possible feature additions to future cameras and other system products, in order of popularity.

Below is a list of the most common 'wishes' that are frequently expressed. If you have another to add to this list, please respond to this thread and post your wish, or wishes.

Once we have a, more or less, complete list, I will create a poll so that we can gauge and order of popularity. I will be doing a similar project over at Four Thirds User, and the results of the two sites' polls will be amalgamated and then presented to Mr.Akira.

So, here goes - the most frequently voiced wishes that I, personally, recall - include:
  1. Improved dynamic range.
  2. Improved high ISO noise performance.
  3. Improved continuous AF performance.
  4. Improved AF consistency with different SWD lenses.
  5. More fast prime lenses, especially portrait, standard, and wide angle.
  6. Longer telephoto lens options.
  7. Infra red remote control sensor on the back of the camera, as well as on the front (for operation from behind the camera).
  8. Olympus Studio development to deliver live view tethered shooting on your PC screen without the need for a video cable.
  9. Implementation of multi-spot metering.
  10. Focus indication for legacy lenses.
  11. Custom modes save to compact flash card function for easy transfer to other cameras or re-installation after a camera reset.
  12. HD video support.
  13. Replacement of xD PictureCard slot with an SD card slot.
  14. Dual-slot saving, for example JPEG to xD/SD, RAW to CF slot.
  15. Tilt shift lenses.
  16. E-620 or similar sized model with E-3 standard alloy body and weather proofing.
  17. Faster shooting rate (8fps) for E-3 replacement.
  18. More quiet shutter/mirror than existing models (matching the mechanical standard set by the E-1).
  19. More powerful flash with faster recycling from AA batteries.
  20. In-camera wireless connectivity.
  21. Re-introduction of a manual AF mode switch (like the E-1).
  22. Introduction of quick-release camera strap.
  23. Affordable weather-sealed E-System model.
  24. High resolution LCD screen
  25. Red low light AF assist light instead of strobing flash.
  26. Larger viewfinder view.
  27. Wider range of interchangeable focus screens, including a split prism type.
  28. Low ISO, mode, e.g. 50.
  29. Configurable neutral density graduated filter extension to Creative Art Filters.
  30. Level sensors in all models, not just the E-30.
  31. Improved alternative to HLD-4 grip (better construction, maybe alloy) better feel.
  32. GPS add-on for geo-tagging, or maybe built in (higher end models).
  33. Ability to customise file names and metadata in-camera or via Master/Studio for the camera to apply automatically (copyright, name, etc.).
  34. USB-charging of batteries, maybe in-camera?
  35. Firmware update option that does not rely on a Web connection.

So if you have any wishes or suggestions to add, please post your suggestion to this thread!

Ian
G'day to you Ian. it seems to me that a wish list should wait until we all have our "new toy" in our hands and then perhaps the list may be shorter. What do you think having had a go at the new beast?
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

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Looking at the 650-1300mm, it can weight in at a comfortable 2.5kg to 3kg. Especially since Olympus uses mainly high grade plastics and or metallics such as light weight aluminium.
If you would go for a 650-1300mm f/2.8-5.6 with a diameter of, lets say, 105mm or 129mm and a drop in filter, it must be possible to keep the weight down to 2.5kg to 3kg. Mine Samyang/Delamax 650-1300mm is all metallic and weights 2 kg and has a diameter of 95mm but a f/8.0-16. And it's a MF. So adding an AF would add an additional 500 grams to the lens.
Except a 650-1300mm f/2.8-5.6 would need a front element 232.143mm in diameter.

A 650-1300mm with a front element of 116mm would be a f/5.6-11 and would start suffering from diffraction almost as soon as you zoomed it from 650mm or started stopping it down.
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

David,
If you would use a front element of 129mm what would be the f on the 650-1300mm?
As far as i have experienced till now with the Samyang/Delemax 650-1300mm f/8.0-16 diffraction or stopping down isn't really an issue as soon as you start to zoom in from 650mm. So why would it be different then? I didn't suggest to completely design anew 650-1300mm, rather convert and change an existing 650-1300mm and make it a bit more light sensitive.
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David,
If you would use a front element of 129mm what would be the f on the 650-1300mm?
It would be a 650-1300mm f/5-10.

With a 4/3 camera diffraction starts to affect image quality around f8. This of course changes slightly depending on which sensor is in the body.
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Re: A Wish List for Mr Watanabe.

In that case I would opt for a CMOS sensor full 4/3
But a 650-1300mm f5-10 sounds good to me. At least for most daylight conditions. It's almost as bright as the current 70-300mm. And that one has a f/4-5.6
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G'day to you Ian. it seems to me that a wish list should wait until we all have our "new toy" in our hands and then perhaps the list may be shorter. What do you think having had a go at the new beast?
Hi Bill,

Sorry for the confusion but this is not a current "Wish List," in fact it is about three years old and very much out of date!
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Hi Bill,

Sorry for the confusion but this is not a current "Wish List," in fact it is about three years old and very much out of date!
Thanks John and I just realized what you said...I fell somewhat like a fool but then some people already think I am!
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Thanks John and I just realized what you said...I fell somewhat like a fool but then some people already think I am!
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