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Tern acrobatics

I shot this of a tern diving for small fish, with the E5 and 300 mm 2.8.

It's cropped quite a bit, so there are other options for placing the tern. I'd like some comments whether I've placed the tern in the best position. I wanted to bring it closer to view by cropping, I've removed quite a bit of uninteresting water, and wanted to give the tern some space to dive into while keeping it approximately on the thirds. Does it work?



Less stylish, but a bit funnier is this one: Comments very welcome!

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Re: Tern acrobatics

Both interesting action shots I really like the second one.
Not sure I'm qualified to critique but I wonder if the second would benefit from cropping a little more off the top.
Nice to see Arctic Terns as you will know we don't get many of them in this part of the UK, just the odd "stray" during migration.

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Tern acrobatics

Thanks, Peter! I now see you're right about cropping the second for a better image composition. I included the current above the tern to make it a documentary photo of where they were foraging, but it needs a bit of cropping photographically. Or maybe make two versions.

Gosh, I love that lens! Although it cost me a sprained neck!
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Re: Tern acrobatics

Excellent captures...please dont tell me that it was your first couple of shots that gave you these!
For the first the composition works...as an alternative explore a square crop
For the second crop the top
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Re: Tern acrobatics

No, Chris, I had to take loads! But once I got the hang of following them, I was able to predict better when they were about to dive, and I have lots of sharp images! Also, the guy driving the boat was a photographer himself, so he knew how to get us in place for the best shots.

I was surprised, however, at how easy it was to get sharp pictures with the 300mm 2.8. The only thing about shooting with it is that it's easy to miss when the boat follows the waves up and down, always when you think you have a bird in the middle... I didn't even consider using the EC14 on there in addition, it's far better to crop!
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Re: Tern acrobatics

Hi

First of all the image quality is really good with detail rendering. I know how fast and unpredictable these birds are and the challenge it causes...

The first picture: I believe there is a very good balance in the composition/bird placement and also there is a feeling of space created by the clean background, it works fine as is. I would perhaps consider reducing the noise that is visible on the background (now I am picky).

The second picture: Frozen at the very right moment. The small wave just beneath the bird creates additional interesting element, making you think it is the wake of a fish about to be picked as meal. Pity the bird was captured from the rear and features partly hidden but there is nothing to do about it. As Pete says, would improve from more cropping.
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Re: Tern acrobatics

Thanks, Tordan, I'll definately crop the top off the second photo. I'll see how much noise can be reduced in the sea without smoothing the bird.

This photo is one that I'll use to illustrate the importance of areas with currents. This was a tight sound where the incoming tide created a high current-area where some small fish or crustacean was caught and the terns were foraging. It shows the currents quite well, and is useful for work!



I haven't processed all the photos yet, there were so many! Because we were following them flying alongside the boat, and they flew on ahead of us outward, most were shot from behind. I think we passed the other way as well, but that was much more difficult, and the boat started rocking. Using the 300 was like trying to shoot them with a rifle...





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Re: Tern acrobatics

Hi Cathrine,

Thanks for sharing these pictures.

On the noise subject: have you tried DXO Optics Pro when processing images? I am in the process of evaluating it and am impressed about its capabilities.

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Re: Tern acrobatics

Irrespective of the composition, all would benefit from being flipped right to left. This is how we read and generally produces more pleasing images, unless there is any writing in view of course.
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Re: Tern acrobatics

An amazing sequence, Cathrine. You have a real penchant for BIF shots.
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Hi Cathrine,

Thanks for sharing these pictures.

On the noise subject: have you tried DXO Optics Pro when processing images? I am in the process of evaluating it and am impressed about its capabilities.

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Irrespective of the composition, all would benefit from being flipped right to left. This is how we read and generally produces more pleasing images, unless there is any writing in view of course.
I've never thought of that! Thanks for the tip! I'll definately flip them (after removing my signature ), especially if I decide to include them in an exhibition I'm preparing for a health clinic.
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Beautiful images Cathrine.
I'm glad Dave mentioned flipping them - this was my first thought, but I wouldn't have been game to say so!
Now I will hang onto his coat-tails.
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Stunning - patience I suppose makes perfect.
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Re: Tern acrobatics

A question for Dave: Does the left to right thing work the same for those who are left-handed, meaning do they see them as more pleasing? Just curious. I'm planning to flip them when I have some time tonight. Also hope to get some photos of our other tern species, the common tern.
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