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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Thanks. That's because it has a layer mask, OM.
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Hi Mark.
Certainly stands alone for me - and the background is fine. Lovely colours all round.
I find the hand distracting, it is such an important part of the rider's pose that perhaps you might tweek it a bit?
You are lucky to have such a talent - I struggle to draw a stick man.
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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Floribunda don't knock it think of Lowry.
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Floribunda don't knock it think of Lowry.
Certainly not knocking it Ed. Mark knows me well enough to know I will give an honest opinion.
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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Ed -I've always admired Lowry's paintings. At art school I attended classes with a similar non-conformist attitude but unfortunately did not have his talent.

Lyn - Thanks as always for your much appreciated comment.
Traditionally the difference between painting and photography is that the painter has the freedom to interpret his subject directly by hand to his canvas and may change the scale of things to express an idea or an emotion or balance an action. Photoshop gave the photographer the means to express those things too, but not as directly. The hand in my painting is deliberately emphasised to balance the action, to express the physical and mental energies the rider is feeling - well that's the way I see it but everyone will see it with their own eyes. The best an artist can hope for is contention, the worst is indifference.
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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Lyn was referring to your comment re stickmen not Marks masterpiece. My painting skill is limited to emulsion on walls and ceilings with help from a set of steps and even then the join between wall and ceiling leaves a lot to be desired!
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Ed - your first sentence to me is an enigma.

Your second sentence is pure delight, it embodies all the finest sentiments of what it is to be Irish!

Being half Irish myself your comments and the quirky way in which they are put, plucks at my harp strings Ed.
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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Hi there Mark!

I know that the matter is pretty much settled but I also agree that the background is perfect as it is - it does focus the attention on the rider. The photograph was a great capture of the action, but the painting distills down the important parts of the image and just leaves the movement, struggle and excitement of the action.

You obviously still have the talent, so I look forwards to seeing more of your paintings!

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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Oops just read it back. First sentence should have read.

Lyn I was referring to your comments re drawing stickmen not Marks masterpiece.

Mark I think you understood you just wanted me to type Marks masterpiece again!!

Can you give a price with P&P to N. Ireland unmounted?
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Hi there Mark!

I know that the matter is pretty much settled but I also agree that the background is perfect as it is - it does focus the attention on the rider. The photograph was a great capture of the action, but the painting distills down the important parts of the image and just leaves the movement, struggle and excitement of the action.

You obviously still have the talent, so I look forwards to seeing more of your paintings! Cheers, Ralph.
Thanks for your much appreciated take on the painting, Ralph - never too late. After a couple of failures, this work was the first that I felt was heading in the right direction but I'm far from satisfied with it. The last horse I painted as I've said was 30 years ago and it was way better.
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Lyn was referring to your comment re stickmen not Marks masterpiece. My painting skill is limited to emulsion on walls and ceilings with help from a set of steps and even then the join between wall and ceiling leaves a lot to be desired!
Meaning lost in translation Ed - Sorry. Am up with it now.
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Oops just read it back. First sentence should have read.
Lyn I was referring to your comments re drawing stickmen not Marks masterpiece.
Mark I think you understood you just wanted me to type Marks masterpiece again!!
Can you give a price with P&P to N. Ireland unmounted?
Thanks for clearing that up, I did like the "Mark's Masterpiece bit - extravagant praise is always uplifting when undeserved.

Ed, I will check on the cost of P&P and a price, and PM you. Must wait until G.P.O opens on Monday to find out.
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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Mark, BRILLIANT ! lovely to see you "in the oils" again
I am staggered at your painting - and let us not forget that is "your interpretation" of the photograph !

I commend your background - it is SUPERB against which you present the "subject" with all the action and textures, of the horses shiny coat, with contrasting "unruly" mane and upright "knot" at the end of the rope - true high speed captured in action!

and the Cowboy - maintaining balance - arms flung far apart, feet thrust hard in the stirrups, as far forward as they can get - and a "lite seat" so lite, he is hovering over this bucking equine, more weight on his feet than his seat - indeed, why he is still astride; his Teeth pressed tight - upper and lower, gritted together - so very white !

The background, actual, is not needed and may be left to the imagination of the viewer! although a few posts with rails would create the arena ! my feeling is "less is more"

That "hand" ! well you have the balance in perspective reproduced pretty accurately. The photograph captures the size of his open hand and, being white/lite it may appear larger than actual - News Film of people waving hands about create "larger hands" they say the camera does not lie, but ... the white end of the "rope" too appears very large, in context ! so I feel the camera is lying ! I am sure someone here can explain how the camera does this, scientifically explaining the technology ???

YES ! I would give this wall space, infact I LURVE it so very much I would buy it myself !

I have done lots of painting this year - not much using cameras at all and creating many Art cards for the Royal Marsden Cancer Fund - much more fun after my walks with Mr Huggy Henry in our glorious green countryside ! My last challenge, a Ballerina - just her shoes, on point and legs ... but heck Perspective is soo very difficult to learn but great fun practicing

Well Done Mark ! Truly wonderful to see your painting so brilliantly, again ! Life is full of surprises Not least, the fact that you have completely avoided the Artists nightmare faces and eyes (of equine and rider) I am in AWE ! of your photo capture too
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Re: Buckjumper (Oil Painting from E3 Image)

Great work Mark.
The way I see "the hand" is that it depicts the energy of movement - a bit like motion blur
Certainly works for me

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Mark, BRILLIANT ! lovely to see you "in the oils" again
I am staggered at your painting - and let us not forget that is "your interpretation" of the photograph !
WOW Chevvy, high praise indeed from an unexpected quarter, glad to see you back here again and hopefully not just a "fly past" visit. You contributed many vibrant threads to the forum, it was always a joy hear you speak and I do miss seeing your incomparable captures of Mr Huggy Henry being his boisterous self and many other images shot in your idiosyncratic style!

And a big THANK YOU for that very comprehensive in-depth C&C pointing out virtues of which I was unaware myself! With a wrap like that, to avoid me almost starving and freezing to death in my studio and burning the oily paint rags to keep warm, (à la Marcello, La bohème ) I need your entrepreneurial skills as either my manager or patron. Let me know your terms!

Looking forward to seeing you posting again, Chevvy, Cheers

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Great work Mark.
The way I see "the hand" is that it depicts the energy of movement - a bit like motion blur
Certainly works for me Mark
Thanks for that thoughtful comment, Mark. After initially 'blocking in' the hand I was aware of its size and almost downsized it but the more I looked at it the less inclined I was to do it, so I left it as you see it.
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