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Saw this a few times and wonder if anyone has experience of this company?
http://www.aweenergy.co.uk/index.php
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Re: Solar Power

Hi David, I don't know of this company, but I costed up the investment in solar panels and what you get in return if you think how much energy the average house uses, and what these produce ie 24.5 volts at 500 mha per hour on a good sunny day, it would take around 20 to 25 years just to get back what you payed for the system. It is really an Middle class greeny thing nothing to do with cost saving, yes you can receive upto 350 a year back off your total electricity bill, if you install 15,000 to 20,00 of solar panels then the anual maintainace cost cleaning etc..

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Hi David, I don't know of this company, but I costed up the investment in solar panels and what you get in return if you think how much energy the average house uses, and what these produce ie 24.5 volts at 500 mha per hour on a good sunny day, it would take around 20 to 25 years just to get back what you payed for the system. It is really an Middle class greeny thing nothing to do with cost saving, yes you can receive upto 350 a year back off your total electricity bill, if you install 15,000 to 20,00 of solar panels then the anual maintainace cost cleaning etc..

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Thanks Dave. This company give the impression that it costs us nowt to install the panels, the cost is recovered from selling back to the grid.
Anyone had experience of this particular company?
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Re: Solar Power

Hi Dave, it is possible to get the solar installation for free. The company install the panels and they then reclaim the Feed In Tariff (FIT) payments. In effect you give them the roof space and get in return, the free energy. What you generate depends on the size of panels, usually a maximum of 4kW for a normal dwelling and also the roof aspect E to W - is best - or N to S. You can get a Geo solar unit which will show how much is being generated and show also how much dosh you would earn via the FIT. Two payments get paid one for the solar power generated and the other for what gets fed back into the grid. Normally you will need an extra meter to show generation figures. These figures need to be returned every 3 months... IF you reclaim the costs of installation.

Presently, the FIT payments are:

Eligibility Date from 1st January 2014 and before 1st April 2014

NOTE: These payments are dependent on an Energy survey - how good is the property regards energy saving? To qualify for the higher rate the assesmnent need to be rated as a D or higher. With A being the highest and G being the lowest rating.

Top rate (p/kWh)14.90
Middle rate (p/kWh) 13.41
Low rate (p/kWh) 6.16)

Export Tariff - (p/kWh) 4.64

If in doubt of any company, research their feedback.

There is also a Green Deal website which I believe you can use to get three quotes from company's in your local area. They also provide details on what you should look for when deciding which company and what they should provide as well as are they signed up to certain quality certification requirements such as Green Deal Approved, Renewable Energy Association, Renewable Energy Consumer Code and NAPIT.

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Thanks Dave. This company give the impression that it costs us nowt to install the panels, the cost is recovered from selling back to the grid.
Anyone had experience of this particular company?
They may be right about the projected cost being nowt over the long-term life of the scheme, because you gradually recover it year by year (for around 25 years) but that is glossing over the fact that there is a hefty up-front investment to be made by you!
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Hi Dave, it is possible to get the solar installation for free. The company install the panels and they then reclaim the Feed In Tariff (FIT) payments. In effect you give them the roof space and get in return, the free energy.
Thanks Wally, if this is how it works then I stand corrected.
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And if you move house before your 25 is up ....
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Probably die before the time is up
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And if you move house before your 25 is up ....
If paid for, and at today's rates £7,500 should give you a top class sytem then it ought to add to the selling price as the new owner has no outlay costs, bearing in mind, fuel cost will increase.

If a freebie, then it's a wheeler dealer situation but the seller should still win as any arising problem should be dealt with by the installer and the buyerr still gets free electricity.
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And if you move house before your 25 is up ....
A good point, this. Where does the contract between the owner and installer end up, what would the new owner think and how would the solicitors deal with it? Maybe worth thinking about if you are planning to move soon.

I am a big believer in micro generation, so definitely consider it but get clarity on the legal stuff as houses are complicated enough to sell without funnies.
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Maybe not move to far and run your own cables.......................OK I am going.
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Re: Solar Power

I would have gone with the free installation deal in an instant but was told my roof isn't big enough

Energy costs are only going to rise as far as I can see and those who invested in solar early will probably be sitting pretty earlier than they expected. If you move house I would have thought a solar installation would be a value-add to your house's sale price.

And you can feel justified that you have contributed to the country's energy independence, environmental cleanliness and the fight to counter greenhouse gas global warming and climate change.

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Re: Solar Power

The biggest debate for me would be whether to use if for electricity or to get a heat pump in there too.

Heat pump saves you money on your gas for heating too, but there are some extra costs involved with changing the plumbing around a little. If you go purely for electric, then underfloor heating mat (electric) can be isntalled to bring the heating cost down.

Our place is too small to justify solar of any type, but I did put in the research for our underfloor heating. Opted instead for some very intelligent pumps and top notch insulation instead.

If I were building a new place or had large roof real estate, I'd try to mix up electricity and heat exchangers to get the best of both worlds.

Unfortunately I can't comment on the company.
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Re: Solar Power

I have two friends each of whom have the solar panels, one has the freebie and the other has a paid for system, both have south facing roofs with a 4kW system with 16 panels.

It is possible to get a 4kW system using 12 panels but AFAIK these do not come free but is something to look into if, like Ian you have a small roof.

The paid for sysytem has returned £,1500 this year. His sytem recovers a higher FIT return as it was istalled just over two years ago. This is something to bear in mind as PV costs come down, so does the FIT payments.

From 1st April, new FIT payments will probably take place and wil more than likely be reduced.

If you have the dosh, there are some extra's you can fit. Panels can be optimised to produce their maximum or which allow remote access via the internet (smartphone) whereby you can switch on and off certain appliances.

As al caholic has said, there are many options, all which come at a cost.
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Re: Solar Power

Here is a site that gives you the facts as they don't benefit from anyone.
the facts and figures

http://www.aresolarpanelsworthit.co....larpanels.html

So botttom line is don't get fooled by solar power companies.

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