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Olympus OM-D E-M1 The first Micro Four Thirds camera that offers phase detect focusing so you can use Four Thirds DSLR lenses normally as well a Micro Four Thirds lenses.

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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

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Brian, I hear what you are saying BUT the 5 is very different to the ONE

I am just going on my Exp with IBM on the Study group at Boca Raton, factory in 1981 and PC/DOS prototype O/S and even 3.1 et al read/write to silly 8" floppy disks

Yes, I agree its an Olympus problem
32Gb is small-fry now in the world of SD cards. As to the link with IBM 8" floppies in 1981 ...

Of course, if you have evidence to the contrary, I'm sure Olympus would be delighted to hear from you. By phone or email.
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

Adding to the database.

Two lockups today (in quick succession).

Set up was: E-M1, 50-200 non SWD, EC-14, MMF1 (waiting for my MMF3!).

Settings were: C-AF TR, Shutter priority (c 1/1600 I think), Iso Auto. Battery two out of three segments showing. Spot metering, -.7 EV exposure compensation (trying for gulls!).

Weather: cold (around freezing).

Symptoms: VF 'froze' after locking on and then releasing the tracking box. No adverse sounds, noise, vibration etc. The camera simply 'got stuck'.

Remedy: switch off, remove battery, insert battery, switch on, carry on shooting.

Comment: I don't think that this can be attributed solely to battery level as I carried on shooting using a mixture of C-AF and C-AF TR until the battery dies without this happening again. I can't see what mixture of signals is locking up the camera's brain.

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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

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Adding to the database.

Two lockups today (in quick succession).

Set up was: E-M1, 50-200 non SWD, EC-14, MMF1 (waiting for my MMF3!).

Settings were: C-AF TR, Shutter priority (c 1/1600 I think), Iso Auto. Battery two out of three segments showing. Spot metering, -.7 EV exposure compensation (trying for gulls!).

Weather: cold (around freezing).

Symptoms: VF 'froze' after locking on and then releasing the tracking box. No adverse sounds, noise, vibration etc. The camera simply 'got stuck'.

Remedy: switch off, remove battery, insert battery, switch on, carry on shooting.

Comment: I don't think that this can be attributed solely to battery level as I carried on shooting using a mixture of C-AF and C-AF TR until the battery dies without this happening again. I can't see what mixture of signals is locking up the camera's brain.

Andrew
At the risk of repeating myself, incidents should be reported directly to Olympus. OK, they're monitoring this forum, but by individual reporting the incidents can be officially logged, and additional information asked of the reporter.
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

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32Gb is small-fry now in the world of SD cards. As to the link with IBM 8" floppies in 1981 ...

Of course, if you have evidence to the contrary, I'm sure Olympus would be delighted to hear from you. By phone or email.
Sorry Stephen you missed my key point - was in the "process" of "writing" from a powerful "processor (in camera)" to a "chip (storage device)" of a WORM

the ONE is a very complex series of processes - when using AF one set of instructions defined by the lens attached ; another set of instructions defined by a multitude of settings

From a Systems Design point of view - albeit mine is from way back on the IBM PC Study days of the intricacies of these processes ... the common factor "its NEW" (then to IBM and the World) NOW to Olympus and Our World

It was reported that Olympus deferred this Launch after taking a number of "bodies/lenses to the Olympics in London 2012 going back to the drawing board on the complexity of defining compatibility for 4/3rd and m4/3rd lenses :0

So, it is little wonder we are having a few problems in this area of operation. Bench testing never ironed all the bugs out of any system
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

Thanks for this. I'm sure Olympus never knew it was so complex.

PS I don't think an SD card can be defined as a WORM - Write Once Read Manytimes device.
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Thanks for this. I'm sure Olympus never knew it was so complex.

PS I don't think an SD card can be defined as a WORM - Write Once Read Manytimes device.

Sorry again Stephen - the WORM in this case is the camera processor - Write ONCE - to card may thus be READ Manytimes

see in the bit you did not include in your quote, I clearly defined the process

"Sorry Stephen you missed my key point - was in the "process" of "writing" from a powerful "processor (in camera)" to a "chip (storage device)" of a WORM "
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

I now have the camera, arrived after I left but a kind neighbour took it in.

As it turned out, all the Petworth Fallow Deer were in hiding so all I had to shoot were a few, pretty average, landscapes. So the lack of the EM-1 was not a worry.

Thought this message from Chris was worth sharing amongst those of us who are trying to get the most from sport and BIF shooting:

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When you do get the camera back i would advise that you not push the camera quite so hard until we have further information on a possible resolution to this lock up issue.
Which does sound as if:

a - the problem has been confirmed

b - a solution is not yet available

I hope to have a chance to test (gently) my replacement body tomorrow and will let you know how I get on

Once again my thanks to Chris for his sterling efforts on my behalf and please keep the factual data coming in on any more instances of lock-up to help Olympus track down and resolve this problem
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

Now you've got it back, I'll be interested to hear your views on the IS and if you consider it different to your initial camera.
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

only a couple of quick shots with it so far Stephen but the most noticeable difference I've spotted so far is that the IS engages with an audible "whirr" and seems to be holding the image rock steady in the EVF

Also, there are, so far, no signs of the sensor doing a "Jump to the Left" when half-pressing the shutter button.

On my first body it was always obvious if it was on or off when framing a shot but quite a few occurrences of the sensor jump


More testing over the next few days and I will report back anything of note (even if to say there are no more problems - I hope!)
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

A quick update on IS when manual focusing, I now observe the effect that when the IS switches off in manual focusing it stays on until I press another button, as reported elsewhere on this site (can't remember who raised it sorry)

So it would appear that my IS is now behaving normally
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

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A quick update on IS when manual focusing, I now observe the effect that when the IS switches off in manual focusing it stays on until I press another button, as reported elsewhere on this site (can't remember who raised it sorry)

So it would appear that my IS is now behaving normally
It was I that first posted this, but after further investigation I discovered it only happens in MF mode when magnification is activated.

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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

Thanks David, yes - that's what I am seeing too
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Re: EM-1 Lock-up Information

I don't have an E-M1, but reading the thread, am I right in thinking that the lock-ups seem to be restricted (or more frequent) when using 4/3 lenses?
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I don't have an E-M1, but reading the thread, am I right in thinking that the lock-ups seem to be restricted (or more frequent) when using 4/3 lenses?
My only, unrepeated, lock-up was using an m4/3 75-300 lens.
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I don't have an E-M1, but reading the thread, am I right in thinking that the lock-ups seem to be restricted (or more frequent) when using 4/3 lenses?
I only have M4/3rds lenses yet have ended up having my EM-1 replaced when the original became unusable as a result of repeated lock-ups,

so my guess is that you are not right in you thought that it was mainly with 4/3rds lenses
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