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Night shooting tests

I decided to try out some night shots with the E-M1 and the E-M5ii so I headed out with the aim of trying single shots of stars and Live composite mode for start trails

Some shots from Buttermere at night

A single shot with the E-M5ii

Buttermere by moonlight 2 by Alf Branch, on Flickr

A live Composite shot with the E-M5ii

Buttermere by moonlight by Alf Branch, on Flickr

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Re: Night shooting tests

You have had a lot of views on Flickr

I see you have used 9mm wide angle but there isn't much circular feel to the star trails. For this you really need a fisheye. The colour in the first is nicer than the composite below.

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Re: Night shooting tests

Nice lot of stars there Alf. I like the first one.
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Re: Night shooting tests

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I see you have used 9mm wide angle but there isn't much circular feel to the star trails. For this you really need a fisheye. The colour in the first is nicer than the composite below.

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You should be able to get a circular feel to the star trails with a 9mm or even a 12mm but you will need to frame the shot looking north and may need about 45min or more. The stars rotate (anticlockwise) in Northern Hemisphere) around Polaris North Star
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Re: Night shooting tests

Both great shots - Like - The Moon reflection in #1 is a bit weird given the angle. Don't mind the straight star lines in #2 different from yer usual circular stuff
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You should be able to get a circular feel to the star trails with a 9mm or even a 12mm but you will need to frame the shot looking north and may need about 45min or more. The stars rotate (anticlockwise) in Northern Hemisphere) around Polaris North Star
Yes, I agree. But I am assuming the coast/shore scene at the centre is of some importance for the framing here. A bit more of a circular effect would have been possible with a fisheye but of course the camera, as you point out, is really not pointing in the best direction for this.

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Nice lot of stars there Alf. I like the first one.
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You have had a lot of views on Flickr

I see you have used 9mm wide angle but there isn't much circular feel to the star trails. For this you really need a fisheye. The colour in the first is nicer than the composite below.

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These were taken facing roughly south on the shore of Buttermere in the lake district a rather classic view.
The shot taken in live composite was only about 20 minutes.

The shot I did with E-m1 facing nearly North was much longer but I made the mistake of working from the screen not the histogram it was underexposed but had more trails as it was much longer.

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Yes, I agree. But I am assuming the coast/shore scene at the centre is of some importance for the framing here. A bit more of a circular effect would have been possible with a fisheye but of course the camera, as you point out, is really not pointing in the best direction for this.

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Both great shots - Like - The Moon reflection in #1 is a bit weird given the angle. Don't mind the straight star lines in #2 different from yer usual circular stuff
That's not the moon it was over my right shoulder and well back.
That is a bright star reflected in moving water I think.


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Re: Night shooting tests

First shot looks the best tonally.
The next trick is to composite two images
Expose for the landscape and expose for the star trails
...and use daylight WB (if not already doing so)
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First shot looks the best tonally.
The next trick is to composite two images
Expose for the landscape and expose for the star trails
...and use daylight WB (if not already doing so)
Yeah true enough and the WB is around daylight

Here is a 1 hour 45 minute trail but it was under exposed looking nearly north this was with the E-M1

Startrail test-1 by Alf Branch, on Flickr
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Re: Night shooting tests

Back to the E-M5ii and a 20 minute trail I think when the wind picked up and broke the surface of the water

Startrail test 2-1 by Alf Branch, on Flickr
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That's not the moon it was over my right shoulder and well back.
That is a bright star reflected in moving water I think.


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Some Photoshop magic?

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Even stranger - the reflection is vertical oblong, so assumes moving water towards you. Yet other similar bright sky objects (not far from the same parallel distance), do not appear as reflections? Have you caught a UFO
The waves on the water were moving towards the camera and at the time it looked like mist on the lake as it aproached.

The squareness seems to be from the moving reflections.
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