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Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

Adobe has officially launched Lightroom 3. In the UK pricing is 198 (ex-VAT) for full boxed copy, or 63 (ex-VAT) for the upgrade version.

The final release version has some further tweaks from the beta 2 release. Stephen (DPNow and FTU mod) and I have been using the release version for a few days - if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask over at: http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=10310

I personally think that it's a major upgrade over LR2 and well worth the upgrade if you already have LR2.

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Re: Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

I'll put my order in. I'm very impressed with LR3 Beta 2 and I don't often use PS Cs4, it's so good.
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Yup me too, I'll download the upgrade version tonight :-)

Why do they charge a few more to download it instead of buying the DVD which they have to process then courier to you?

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Re: Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

Well, I've just downloaded and installed the trial version until my "real" copy with serial number comes from Amazon. Not really tried anything yet, but it didn't half start up quickly! Knocked a few seconds off the beta version for sure. And it automatically opened my LR3 Beta catalogue where I'd left off. Now to see how it actaully performs.
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Yeah thats what I'm gonna do to, I've already downloaded it at work, just hjave to install it tonight, did you have to uninstall the Beta version first?

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Re: Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

No, I left beta in place but the install over-wrote the beta's icons. Don't know if it's necessary/desirable/advisable to do an uninstall of beta now.

Postscript to this: checking on "uninstall programs" there is no beta version to uninstal, and checking the file structure, there is only the top-level beta directory left. Everything else is gone!

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did you have to uninstall the Beta version first?

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Re: Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

Anybody know if Lightroom 3 supports Olympus cameras for tethered shooting?
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Re: Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

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Anybody know if Lightroom 3 supports Olympus cameras for tethered shooting?
It doesn't, sorry!!

I downloaded my trial today, though I have been using the Beta2 version for a while too. The noise reduction is nothing short of awesome, and as it was only this that I sometimes used Photoshop for, I doubt very much if I will be using that any more at all.

It is an awesome piece of software - I've processed a few of my images - in my usual high contrast and saturated style - and I love the way they have turned out. I even imported a few TIFF's I had where the noise (only due to HDR) was high, and the NR in LR3 totally removed any trace of this noise.

I shall certainly be upgrading.

This example: all processing in Lightroom3.0
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It doesn't, sorry!!

I downloaded my trial today, though I have been using the Beta2 version for a while too. The noise reduction is nothing short of awesome, and as it was only this that I sometimes used Photoshop for, I doubt very much if I will be using that any more at all.

It is an awesome piece of software - I've processed a few of my images - in my usual high contrast and saturated style - and I love the way they have turned out. I even imported a few TIFF's I had where the noise (only due to HDR) was high, and the NR in LR3 totally removed any trace of this noise.

I shall certainly be upgrading.

This example: all processing in Lightroom3.0
Shame Adobe do not support Oly like they the big two. Enough to make you want to change camera brands.

I have Photoshop CS5 so get the equivalent of the develop module in LR via Adobe Camera raw so I do not have much need for Lightroom. Shame no tethered support as that would have been worth the cost.

The new noise reduction in ACR and LR is certainly a big improvement.
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I've installed the trial version and come across one anomaly that didn't happen with the BETA version. I opened my LR2 catalogue with LR3 and synchronised the folders. When I when to develop a photo there was an exclamation mark on the bottom right hand side saying the photo could be updated with the LR3 settings which would basically improve things (I did this with LR3 BETA and it did make a change for the better), the option is to just update this photo or you can do all the photos in the thumbstrip I chose to let it update the thumbstrip (and since I was in the root directory of my photos folder it updated all my photos). No problems except now every single photo thumbnail shows that the photo has had "develop adjustments". So now I can't tell if a photo has been changed by me or not when viewing thumbnails. The LR3 BETA version didn't do this it left the status of each photo the same, when I open the LR3 BETA catalogue (with LR3 trial) the thumbnails are as I expect i.e. only the ones modified by me indicate they have been changed.
Both catalogues are identical except all my collections are in the LR2 catalogue I'll probably use the LR3 catalogue so I can tell whats been modified and what hasn't but it's a bit of a pain to have to redo all the collections.

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Re: Adobe officially launches Lightroom 3 today

Does the noise reduction improvement come through an improved camera raw module? If so does anyone know whether this will or may become available to Elements 8 users.

Would I still use Elements 8 for certain things if I also got Lightroom 3?

Sorry if I am revealing my ignorance.

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Does the noise reduction improvement come through an improved camera raw module? If so does anyone know whether this will or may become available to Elements 8 users.

Would I still use Elements 8 for certain things if I also got Lightroom 3?

Sorry if I am revealing my ignorance.

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No, Lightroom 3 has no relationship with Photoshop at the ACR level; each requires its own version of the ACR engine.

However, Photoshop Elements 8 is compatible with ACR 6, which has similar RAW functionality to Lightroom 3. You can ensure you have the latest ACR version 6.1 for Elements 8 (which includes support for the E-600 at last) by downloading it from here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=4730

Lightroom's key uses are for managing the storage and retrieval of your images, and for both JPEG and RAW image enhancements. It's also a great workflow tools so you can apply the same corrections to any number of images that were shot under the same conditions, almost in an instant.

Photoshop Elements can manage your photos as well, but Lightroom does it much better in my opinion. Where Photoshop shines is in detailed alteration and enhancement of images and the use of layers for creative editing.

In my view, LR and PS are complementary, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for LR.

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I've installed the trial version and come across one anomaly that didn't happen with the BETA version. I opened my LR2 catalogue with LR3 and synchronised the folders. When I when to develop a photo there was an exclamation mark on the bottom right hand side saying the photo could be updated with the LR3 settings which would basically improve things (I did this with LR3 BETA and it did make a change for the better), the option is to just update this photo or you can do all the photos in the thumbstrip I chose to let it update the thumbstrip (and since I was in the root directory of my photos folder it updated all my photos). No problems except now every single photo thumbnail shows that the photo has had "develop adjustments". So now I can't tell if a photo has been changed by me or not when viewing thumbnails. The LR3 BETA version didn't do this it left the status of each photo the same, when I open the LR3 BETA catalogue (with LR3 trial) the thumbnails are as I expect i.e. only the ones modified by me indicate they have been changed.
Both catalogues are identical except all my collections are in the LR2 catalogue I'll probably use the LR3 catalogue so I can tell whats been modified and what hasn't but it's a bit of a pain to have to redo all the collections.

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Did you not export the catalogue from LR2 and then import to LR3?

Some of the settings, especially noise reduction and sharpening, have a different scale to power in LR3.

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Thanks Ian that was very helpful.

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I've installed the trial version and come across one anomaly that didn't happen with the BETA version. I opened my LR2 catalogue with LR3 and synchronised the folders. When I when to develop a photo there was an exclamation mark on the bottom right hand side saying the photo could be updated with the LR3 settings which would basically improve things (I did this with LR3 BETA and it did make a change for the better), the option is to just update this photo or you can do all the photos in the thumbstrip I chose to let it update the thumbstrip (and since I was in the root directory of my photos folder it updated all my photos). No problems except now every single photo thumbnail shows that the photo has had "develop adjustments". So now I can't tell if a photo has been changed by me or not when viewing thumbnails. The LR3 BETA version didn't do this it left the status of each photo the same, when I open the LR3 BETA catalogue (with LR3 trial) the thumbnails are as I expect i.e. only the ones modified by me indicate they have been changed.
Both catalogues are identical except all my collections are in the LR2 catalogue I'll probably use the LR3 catalogue so I can tell whats been modified and what hasn't but it's a bit of a pain to have to redo all the collections.

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After discussing this with Stephen Anstey, t looks like you need to revert to process type 2003 from LR3's default 2010. Select a photo in your root directory then in the process option in the calibration section at the bottom of the Develop options (Develop module right hand side) choose 2003, then sync that one to all your other images and it should return them to how they were.

Of course ultimately you really want to be using process 2010 - here is some additional info:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroo...a7fb-7ffd.html

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