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Some shots returning from the Pen F launch


Tower of London and The Shard by Paul Kaye, on Flickr


Tower of London by Paul Kaye, on Flickr


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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

Glad you put your time in London to good use!
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

Sounds like you had a good day with an interesting walk home. Three very nice night shots there Paul.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

London just gets brighter for night shots
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

I used to use Tower Hill every day for a few years and never saw the oppo for a shot. It shows that familiarity can breed blindness. As usual good shots Paul.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

Paul, I like your camera angle of the ToL and the Shard that contrasts the old and new. And Tower Bridge is just superb.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

London looks good at night. Being at the early showing all mine are in daylight.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

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Paul, I like your camera angle of the ToL and the Shard that contrasts the old and new. And Tower Bridge is just superb.
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May I ask the kit and settings you used for the ToL shot? Also, where did you stand to get that angle?
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

They are all superb but for me that second one is 'special'
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

All impressive - which city are you planning to photograph next week?

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Likewise.

May I ask the kit and settings you used for the ToL shot? Also, where did you stand to get that angle?
It's taken with an E-M1 and the 75/1.8. Exposure was 1/8 sec at f1.8 hand-held (the joys of IBIS - 1/8s with a 150mm equiv lens!) at ISO 200. I was standing near the end of Tower Bridge on the north side.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

Hand held in that light! I was certain that you had at least a monopod. Superb!

Another point is that for f1.8, that is a pretty impressive Depth of Field. I guess it is because of the distance from the subject?

If I was taking that picture with the same kit, I would probably have assumed that f1.8 was too shallow for a subject like the Tower Bridge and tried someting like f8 on a tripod.

If the same picture had been taken with a (theoretical) 150mm full-frame lens at f1.8, the Depth of Field would not have been so deep even at that distance, right?
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Hand held in that light! I was certain that you had at least a monopod. Superb!

Another point is that for f1.8, that is a pretty impressive Depth of Field. I guess it is because of the distance from the subject?

If I was taking that picture with the same kit, I would probably have assumed that f1.8 was too shallow for a subject like the Tower Bridge and tried someting like f8 on a tripod.

If the same picture had been taken with a (theoretical) 150mm full-frame lens at f1.8, the Depth of Field would not have been so deep even at that distance, right?
If you look carefully, there is some softening due to DOF issues between the Tower and the Gherkin. However, it's pretty slight. Both were a fair distance from the camera so it wasn't too bad.

Overall though, I think this is the sort of shot that u43 excels at. The 75/1.8 is a superb lens, sharp even wide open and it's compact enough that I could carry it along with the 12, 25 and 45 in the same small bag. Add IBIS that allowed me to take a sharp shot at 1/8th sec hand held and bingo!

Reading Ming Thein's review of the Pen F, he said this:

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Thirdly, and most importantly, there’s a sort of ‘confidence of getting the shot’ which I have not had from the higher resolution beasts I normally use – Sony A7RII included – if focus looks good, it almost certainly is, and you’re probably not going to see camera shake unless shutter speeds are very, very marginal. If you couple this with the shadow/highlight indicator in live view, then you’re fairly certain of a usable image afterwards. This confidence is quite liberating, and means you don’t get distracted with chimping
This is true of all recent Olympus cameras and it's something that's easy to forget when comparing them to the A7. I think the shot above proves the point. I actually took 5 shots of the same scene thinking that camera shake would be an issue so I wanted to get the statistics in my favour. In the event, all but one were sharp.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

On the subject of DoF, I checked the calculator and compared the Olympus 75mm f1.8 with the closest similar available, The Canon 135mm f2. At a distance of 150 metres from the nearest point of the subject (which is the appox distance I have assumed you were from the northern end of the Tower Bridge when you took that picture), here are the figures.

Canon 135mm f2: DoF range 98m to 317m (219m)

Olympus 75mm f1.8: DoF range 85m to 645m (560m)

At 200 metres from the subject, the Olympus' DoF reaches infinity even at f1.8

Therefore, the much maligned larger DoF for the (M)FT format is not always a disadvantage! For portraits yes, but for shots like the ones you have taken, it is a distinct advantage.

For example, if someone wanted to photograph a spouse or partner at dusk with the illuminated Taj Mahal 150 metres in the background (a very likely scenario) the Olympus 75mm beats the Canon 135mm.
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Re: Some shots returning from the Pen F launch

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If you look carefully, there is some softening due to DOF issues between the Tower and the Gherkin. However, it's pretty slight. Both were a fair distance from the camera so it wasn't too bad.

Overall though, I think this is the sort of shot that u43 excels at. The 75/1.8 is a superb lens, sharp even wide open and it's compact enough that I could carry it along with the 12, 25 and 45 in the same small bag. Add IBIS that allowed me to take a sharp shot at 1/8th sec hand held and bingo!

Reading Ming Thein's review of the Pen F, he said this:



This is true of all recent Olympus cameras and it's something that's easy to forget when comparing them to the A7. I think the shot above proves the point. I actually took 5 shots of the same scene thinking that camera shake would be an issue so I wanted to get the statistics in my favour. In the event, all but one were sharp.
With all this talk about small(ish) primes, I think that this is where the Pen F will excel, rather than with zooms apart from the very compact ones (part of one of the kits that will be available when it goes on sale).

By the way, does anyone remember the name of the black guy who was extolling the virtues of the Pen F at the 3-5pm session on Wednesday?
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