Olympus UK E-System User Group
Olympus UK E-System User Group

Join our unique resource for Olympus Four Thirds E-System DSLR and Pen and OM-D Micro Four Thirds photographers. Show your images via our free e-group photo gallery. Please read the e-group.uk.net forum terms and conditions before posting for the first time. Above all, welcome!


Go Back   Olympus UK E-System User Group > Cameras, lenses and system accessories > Camera conference > Micro Four Thirds > Olympus OM-D E-M5

Olympus OM-D E-M5 The first Micro Four Thirds camera from Olympus with an integrated Electronic Viewfinder

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Coming Back to the EM 5

Ok Folks

Not too sure if you all remember be a few years back when I use to own a EM 5 and then went back to dSLR.... Now it the time to come back as my Back can't handle the big gears anymore.

I was told the EM 5 has improved a bit since I had one when they first came out is this true? If so in which ways.

As at the moment there is a EM 5 at jessops with 3 lens that takes my fancy...

Other is the EM10 with 2 lens..

Decision is hard
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21st February 2015
Wee man's Avatar
Wee man Wee man is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Newcastle Co. Down N. Ireland
Posts: 8,000
Thanks: 2,392
Thanked 1,155 Times in 1,030 Posts
Likes: 281
Liked 1,233 Times in 803 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Maybe look at the new EM5 Mk ll ?
__________________
Ed

What if the Hokey Cokey is what its all about?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Don't think I really fancy paying £1500 and then another 500 for couple lens..

But has the EM 5 improved a bit as people say it been altered design wise a but elite??

Or should I look EM10?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

EM 1 might be a option too as can get a 6 month old one with the 12-50 kit lens for £700
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21st February 2015
Nawty Nawty is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 192
Thanks: 6
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Likes: 25
Liked 61 Times in 38 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

The EM5 is the same as it's always been, a few firmware upgrades might have improved a few things here and there but ultimately it is the same camera.

I am new the the M4/3 world (looking to save size/weight from my FF Nikon kit for travel) and went with the EM10 as it has a number of features that lends itself to a travel camera (wifi and built in flash) which the EM5 doesn't have. The only issue is lack of weather sealing but I felt the other features more than made up for it.

The EM5 mk2 solves these differences and adds some extra features but it is a lot of cash to pay for the difference. They all have the same sensor so image quality is the same.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

But if you go on this page and scroll down you see the difference between the EM10 EM 5 and EM 1 and you will see the EM 5 has a older sensor

http://thomas.leuthard.photography/blog/em10/
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 21st February 2015
Nawty Nawty is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 192
Thanks: 6
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Likes: 25
Liked 61 Times in 38 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

They're all near as damn-it though. Both the EM10 and EM5 have a Sony sensor and the EM1 has a Panasonic sensor without an AA filter.

Not that anyone can really tell the difference.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Nawty For This Useful Post:
Rooky007 (21st February 2015)
  #8  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nawty View Post
They're all near as damn-it though. Both the EM10 and EM5 have a Sony sensor and the EM1 has a Panasonic sensor without an AA filter.

Not that anyone can really tell the difference.
Really is all that true regarding the Sensor i though Oly makes there own hence the reason good cameras? So if the EM 1 using a Panasonic Sensor why don't i go for a GX 7 ?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 21st February 2015
Nawty Nawty is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 192
Thanks: 6
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Likes: 25
Liked 61 Times in 38 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

It is indeed - I guess Sony couldn't build in the phase detection points.

The differences show up in long high ISO exposures where the Sony sensor is much better but for most instances there is little/no difference. The long exposure problem with the EM1 is mitigated somewhat by the rather fantastic live composite feature.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Are you saying the EM1 having some problems??? If money wasn't a issue what would you go for now... But some time we like to be sensible and spend rightly lol Ive not the kind of money to throw about I have to be careful..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 21st February 2015
Nawty Nawty is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 192
Thanks: 6
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Likes: 25
Liked 61 Times in 38 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Ha ha, the 'issues' with the EM1 sensor are well documented - this is the best piece I've read on it:

http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/m43/em1-em5-dark.html

As for money no object, I am in that exact situation right now. I intend to treat myself in lieu of an upcoming bonus (small, but enough to cover a camera) with either an EM1 or an EM5mk2. At the moment I really really don't know which way to go.

In fact, the bodies all seem so similar that I may just end up getting a 40-150 f/2.8 for my EM10 which is probably a more sensible thing to do.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 21st February 2015
pdk42's Avatar
pdk42 pdk42 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Leamington Spa
Posts: 5,710
Thanks: 370
Thanked 1,257 Times in 942 Posts
Likes: 150
Liked 6,006 Times in 1,955 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

The E-M1 has a Panasonic sensor - confirmed by someone stripping the sensor out and looking at it under a microscope. The chip has markings on it that show it's from Panasonic.

There are subtle differences between the E-M1 and all the other 16Mp Oly cameras. The least subtle difference is that the E-M1 sensor generates significantly more noise on long exposure shots (>a few seconds) unless you use dark-frame subtraction. This can be done in-camera, but it means you need to wait for the exposure time x 2 until ready to shoot again. It's unlikely to be an issue unless you're into astro photography or long-exposure landscape shooting.

There are also some subtle colour differences between the sensors too. I personally prefer the colours out of the Sony sensors (E-M5, E-PM2, E-PL5/6/7, E-P5, E-M10 and it seems the E-M5ii), but it's very subtle and is probably due mainly to differences in post processing in LightRoom (I always shoot raw).

However, all these differences are very small and most people would never see the difference unless shots from both sensors were looked at closely side-by-side.

Best bang-for-the buck right now is probably the E-M10. You get all the recent firmware features, 0s anti-shock (electronic first curtain shutter), 3-axis IBIS, flash, WiFi and a very nicely built compact body. Hard to go wrong really.
__________________
Paul
E-M1ii, Pen-F and too many lenses
flickr
Portfolio Site
Instagram
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 21st February 2015
Simon Bee's Avatar
Simon Bee Simon Bee is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bridgend, South Wales
Posts: 1,887
Thanks: 143
Thanked 214 Times in 181 Posts
Likes: 425
Liked 302 Times in 190 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Quote:
Originally Posted by pdk42 View Post
Best bang-for-the buck right now is probably the E-M10. You get all the recent firmware features, 0s anti-shock (electronic first curtain shutter), 3-axis IBIS, flash, WiFi and a very nicely built compact body. Hard to go wrong really.

I'll 'second' that.

Kind regards, Simon
__________________
“Sharpness is a bourgeois concept”
― Henri Cartier-Bresson
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

But bearing in mind the price and the bundle for the em 5 and em 10 at the moment from jessops.

Hmm em1 looks poor with long epsosure at high ISO compare to em 5 on that link.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 21st February 2015
Rooky007 Rooky007 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hope Valley
Posts: 276
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Coming Back to the EM 5

Sometime I do long exsposure for water and Milky Way. So these camera a no then
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Who saw that coming then? benvendetta The lounge 6 9th July 2014 11:37 AM
It's Coming To Get Me! OlyPaul Foto Fair 3 24th September 2013 09:16 AM
Back to basics- E1 coming tomorrow. Blackop8que Introduce yourself 16 1st September 2013 04:03 PM
You are definitely not coming in ardvorlich Foto Fair 2 3rd April 2012 10:31 PM
I'm coming! Ausdrio Introduce yourself 0 10th October 2011 07:59 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:25 PM.


© The Write Technology Ltd, 2007-2019, All rights reservedAd Management plugin by RedTyger