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My film cameras

I seem to be becoming a camera collector and Iam not sure how it happened or am I just enjoying using film again

Here are some of them

My Vito B which is lovely to use


Vito B 1 by alf.branch, on Flickr


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My Trip 35


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My Ensign selfix 820 with my light meter


Camera and light meter 3 by alf.branch, on Flickr

also my 35-sp


2 Oly 35 SP & XZ-1 by alf.branch, on Flickr

I have other less interesting cameras too.
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Re: My film cameras

Looking at these brings back memories. There is something about film cameras that digital cameras don't seem to have, memories probably.
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Re: My film cameras

I'm about to have a play with an OM and looking forward to the tosh I end up with
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I'm about to have a play with an OM and looking forward to the tosh I end up with
As long as you post it I am looking forward to the results.
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Re: My film cameras

That Voightländer is gorgeous.
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Re: My film cameras

I've still got a fully serviceable OM-1n that my daughter uses a lot, also a Trip which still works.
Somewhere in the house I've got an Praktica Nova 1B with a Zeiss F2.8 50mm Tessar lens that when I last looked still worked. Have to dig it out. If I remember correctly it makes my E5 look small.
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I've still got a fully serviceable OM-1n that my daughter uses a lot, also a Trip which still works.
Somewhere in the house I've got an Praktica Nova 1B with a Zeiss F2.8 50mm Tessar lens that when I last looked still worked. Have to dig it out. If I remember correctly it makes my E5 look small.
The Praktica sounds like a doorstop and it must be worth £15
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Re: My film cameras

Film cameras are so simple compared with modern digitals. Just pick them up and use them!

How did we end up with cameras that are so complicated and cluttered with buttons?
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Film cameras are so simple compared with modern digitals. Just pick them up and use them!

How did we end up with cameras that are so complicated and cluttered with buttons?

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Yes, its really rather stupid. In the beginning, once a film was in the camera, you had to gauge the light and then there were two things to change. This was too difficult so now we have 5 pages of menu options to make things easier.
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Yes, its really rather stupid. In the beginning, once a film was in the camera, you had to gauge the light and then there were two things to change. This was too difficult so now we have 5 pages of menu options to make things easier.
Much of the problem is that digital cameras still don't capture light as well as film, so we need all sorts of exposure options to make it work.

I was never a great fan of colour negative film (I much prefer transparency), but it had so much exposure latitude that you could manage perfectly well without a meter; which was great if the battery in your OM1,2,3,4 had just failed again.
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Re: My film cameras

On a completely different, but related subject, I have been looking at iPod docking stations recently, and came across the gorgeous looking Samsung DA-E750.



According to the blurb this includes "new vacuum tube technology, with the rich and warm sound of vacuum tubes for a pure listening experience to please any audiophile"

In other words it uses valves! Some of us have known that valves sounded better since the 1970's, but it takes an electronics giant of Samsung's size to re-launch 100 year old technology as the new wonder!

I wonder how long it will be before Olympus launches a new camera 'with film technology, using micron sized grains of silver halide to capture every last detail in your photographs'?
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On a completely different, but related subject, I have been looking at iPod docking stations recently, and came across the gorgeous looking Samsung DA-E750.



According to the blurb this includes "new vacuum tube technology, with the rich and warm sound of vacuum tubes for a pure listening experience to please any audiophile"

In other words it uses valves! Some of us have known that valves sounded better since the 1970's, but it takes an electronics giant of Samsung's size to re-launch 100 year old technology as the new wonder!

I wonder how long it will be before Olympus launches a new camera 'with film technology, using micron sized grains of silver halide to capture every last detail in your photographs'?
Thats like the latest hybrid buses which are diesel electric but the first was built in 1913

The film cameras above have all been used one was used this afternoon on mt trip to the beach only with colour print film though.
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Thats like the latest hybrid buses which are diesel electric but the first was built in 1913

The film cameras above have all been used one was used this afternoon on mt trip to the beach only with colour print film though.
Diesel electric trains have been around for quite a while too, and diesel electric ship propulsion systems.
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Re: My film cameras

Before we all get too smug, diesel-electric of days of old is not a hybrid engine. A very different animal.

And, IIRC, valve powered hi-fi gear was VERY unreliable when compared to modern stuff. When did you last have to change a transistor? When did you last have to thump the side of the telly? It sounded great when it worked though.

And cameras? Dynamic range in negative film is not that much better than the best FF, and digital has finer grain. It's the dismal user interfaces I really hate .
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Before we all get too smug, diesel-electric of days of old is not a hybrid engine. A very different animal.
Agreed; although even hybrid systems have been around for a while. It is the availability of light weight, high capacity storage batteries that have made it a reality. Even then, the system is far from efficient.

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And, IIRC, valve powered hi-fi gear was VERY unreliable when compared to modern stuff. When did you last have to change a transistor? When did you last have to thump the side of the telly? It sounded great when it worked though.
That depends on the design. Many of the valve sets of the 1950's and 60's were mass produced for lowest possible cost, and were unreliable as a result. (Sound familiar?) When I was a student in the 1970's I set up a radio repair business to make a few bob in the evenings. It was surprising how many sets would fail because resistors ran too hot (i.e. they were of too low a wattage), and a new one costing five pence would bring the set back to life.

However, my Quad amplifiers are only on their second set of KT66 output valves since they were built in 1955, so with good design valves can last a very long time. And they sound gorgeous! Thankfully, Quad still service these old amplifiers, and recently started building them again!

On a less happy note, the military still uses valve communications gear because it can withstand the intense electromagnetic fields generated by a nuclear strike.
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