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Old 31st July 2008
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East coast sunrise

Hi, I was just trawling through some of my old images and i come across this one which i took last summer on a beach near Sheringham with my old E500, the composition is nothing special but it was worth a shot for the sky,it could probably do with a bit more contrast and saturation in photoshop.
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Re: East coast sunrise

Lovely sky, and good boat shot. The trouble is, imo, I don't know which to look at. It could form two separate shots. My simple brain can only look at one focal point at a time
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Re: East coast sunrise

I think I agree with Stephen.

I quite like the shot, but the exposure almost looks 'too good' for me - almost as if fill in flash was used.

It needs more contrast and saturation, and possibly darkening the boat a bit to make it less distracting.
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Re: East coast sunrise

I do quite like it, but I think I'd go the opposite way and brighten the boat and darken the sky and sea quite a lot...
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Re: East coast sunrise

I'd move the boat - it will quite never work in that image. Or I'd twist the coastline so the sky ran in a different direction.

The boat makes you read across the picture because it is lying athwart the view. The sky makes you read into the picture.

Great shot - despite what I said I like it.

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Re: East coast sunrise

I love it okay it could, maybe do with a couple of teeny tweeks, but hey, i think it's cracking as it is.
I love the yellow edge on the boat, as with the lovely warm pinks in the sky leading you out to the remnants of the blue in the sky.

I could look at a print of this shot for hours. Really really like the composition, with the angle of the boat, angle of the rocky shore and spot on horizon. There's a lot of depth to this image, a lot to take in, but I love it, works 120% for me

If i saw this in a shop, it'd be the kind of imagei'd buy to sit and relax looking at after a stressed day at work. Very peaceful feeling radiates from it.

I have an E-500 too and would love to capture shots like this with it
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Re: East coast sunrise

E - 500 sensor is amazing...

Great shot, sky is amazing

Only thing I would say maybe slighty darken the boat a little..

Was this shot in RAW or JPEG? any grads used etc?

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Re: East coast sunrise

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E - 500 sensor is amazing...

Great shot, sky is amazing

Only thing I would say maybe slighty darken the boat a little..

Was this shot in RAW or JPEG? any grads used etc?

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Yes, I agree.. My instinct is that this is either a "dark sky and light boat" picture, or a "light sky and dark boat". Either one has the makings of a star shot

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Re: East coast sunrise

This has the potential to go from being a good shot to being a fantastic shot. But some work is required. The sky needs adjustment especially to areas that are slightly blown, and my suggestion would be to aim for a darker more moodier sky. Next we need to remove the ship on the horizon, there is doubt that it is a ship, maybe it is sensor dust? But you get my drift? The boat should be an added feature but is somewhat distracting, so how about changing the colour of it and cropping the image from the left to bring it right in to the picture. Make the boat work for you! Finally the foreground/background beach area should be adjusted to match your new sky.

Your sentence then, 1 hour in Photoshop.
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Re: East coast sunrise

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Next we need to remove the ship on the horizon, there is doubt that it is a ship, maybe it is sensor dust? .
Ahh but if you used a E-system camera you'd know it was a ship as dust that big is not a problem for Oly E users.

As to the image A good capture but i tend to agree with most of the other posters.
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E - 500 sensor is amazing...

Great shot, sky is amazing

Only thing I would say maybe slighty darken the boat a little..

Was this shot in RAW or JPEG? any grads used etc?

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Hi Garrie, thanks for the comments, this was shot in Raw and i did use a cokin 3 stop soft ND grad.
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Re: East coast sunrise

Thanks for all the comments, its much appreciated, if my photoshop skills were adequate enough then i would give it a complete rework, perhaps i will store this one away for a rainy day. Susan it was great to read your comment you made me really happy, and i'm sure you are taking great pictures with your E500, hey even the judge was easy on me.
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Re: East coast sunrise

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I think I agree with Stephen.

I quite like the shot, but the exposure almost looks 'too good' for me - almost as if fill in flash was used.

It needs more contrast and saturation, and possibly darkening the boat a bit to make it less distracting.
I have to agree that the boat is too light and looking at the shadows from the boat, I would have expected these to be more prominent in the foreground. I think this is why the eye is confused by the image and separates it into two images. Having said that I too agree this could be much improved in photoshop.

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Re: East coast sunrise

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Hi, I was just trawling through some of my old images and i come across this one which i took last summer on a beach near Sheringham with my old E500, the composition is nothing special but it was worth a shot for the sky,it could probably do with a bit more contrast and saturation in photoshop.
This is a lovely image with gorgeous light, and in the contex of Foto Fair that's all that needs to be said.

However, that almost sells this image short because it is so good it really deserves to be in "Looking For Perfection." There, I could nit-pic a bit (in order, hopefully, for you to get an even better result from this type of situation in future). Please feel free to read no further, but in "Looking For Perfection" this is what I would say:-

There is one aspect of the composition which, unfortunately, jars and somewhat disturbes the tranquil beauty of this scene. The bow of the boat should not intrude above the horizon and, ideally, should have remained below the line of the shingle beach. This could have been achieved by raising the height of the camera. The triangular shapes formed by the sea, beach and boat would then have been in harmony rather than discord, echoing perfectly the dynamic geometry of the clouds that funnel from left to right across the sky. This would have given the added benefit of preventing the yellow prow of the boat from becoming darkened by the ND grad you used on the sky. I also suspect that a 2 stop filter would have been enough, although the 3 stop is not by any means "over the top."

I hope you do not mind me making a "Perfection" critique in Foto Fair but I believe your image justifies it. Apart from the adjustment I mention the composition is inspired, the exposure almost spot on and the planning perfect (or very fortuitous serendipity!)
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Re: East coast sunrise

Hi John, thanks for your comments, i'm glad you made them, the point you made about the top of the boat being above the horizon is quite right, and something that i would'nt of thought about in all honestly, this just emphasises what an important learning tool this forum is, regards, Phil.
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