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Old 9th January 2010
sclifton
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

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Well it seems like I'm alone here ... I'd really love it

I've had a number of occasions recenlty where some video of something would really be useful for presentations I've been asked to make e.g where I was looking at thermal steam vents in Italy.

Stills are wonderful and evocative as images (I did post a one) but the sound and sight of high pressure steam coming out of the ground is something else

As I'm giving a talk to our locally geology group I did some video on my wife's lumix and it's useable, but it meant borrowing her camer therefore stopping her doing what she was taking pictures of and it wasn't HD (however I did just get her an upgraded camera as a christmas present)

So bring it on and Ian when you get one as a sample I'll have a play

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Andy
You're not alone in wanting video capability. Personally I can't see what all the fuss is about here. As has already been said, if you don't want to use it, then don't use that function. There seems to be considerable animosity here to video stills cameras, which I personally don't understand.

Personally, I think that adding video might possibly cost nothing extra for its benefits because, as a friend pointed out to me recently, video cameras are taxed differently anyway when imported, than stills cameras. I can't personally vouch for this, but the possibility actually remains that video might actually make our stills cameras cheaper in the future/or even now?

At the moment I am running two systems (Oly E-510 with kit lenses & The 50-200SWD/EC-14, and a Canon 40D with 100-400L IS zoom) and neither has video. I bought into the Canon system just before Christmas because I shoot more birds & wildlife than anything else, and Oly just doesn't compete in this area unless you are rich!

I keep telling myself that the next body I buy will have HD video, precisely because it is such a great extra feature for this subject. However, the question remains which system would I buy a video enabled stills body for. the Oly or the Canon? The answer to that question might depend on whether Oly ever intend to bring out a long lens that competes with Canon's 400mm F5.6 prime, or the zoom I have now, and that I can afford to buy!.

Personally I can't see Oly doing this anytime soon, which is one of the reasons I bought the Canon, but I am prepared to be surprised.

I could be wrong here, but Oly users could be categorized more as 'general shooters' rather than having an obvious specialized focus (I'm thinking wildlife again), and presumably therefore many users would value the video function for family shooting, holidays etc?

Just my thoughts, and I could be wrong. Perhaps the people I'm referring to just don't have time to contribute to imternet forums, especially those focussed solely on one make or format.

BTW I'm new here, though have been looking in for the past 2 years or so. There are some superb wildlife shots posted on this forum, but I wondered also how Oly users who stick with this brand get on specifically with birds, mammals etc. due to the limited long lenses available? Or do they like me, have to look elsewhere for extra 'reach'

Cheers,

Steve
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

I could be wrong here, but Oly users could be categorized more as 'general shooters' rather than having an obvious specialized focus (I'm thinking wildlife again)[/QUOTE]


I think you need to take a look at the Olympus Safari Group!
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

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I could be wrong here, but Oly users could be categorized more as 'general shooters' rather than having an obvious specialized focus (I'm thinking wildlife again)

I think you need to take a look at the Olympus Safari Group![/QUOTE]

Can you provide a link please?
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

www.ukphotosafari.org
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

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Thanks Edward, I will have a look at it,

Cheers,

Steve
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

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BTW I'm new here, though have been looking in for the past 2 years or so. There are some superb wildlife shots posted on this forum, but I wondered also how Oly users who stick with this brand get on specifically with birds, mammals etc. due to the limited long lenses available? Or do they like me, have to look elsewhere for extra 'reach'

Cheers,

Steve[/QUOTE]

Steve,
I'm kinda in the opposite camp . I only really shoot wildlife and couldn't afford "reach" with nikon or canon or others and I saw olympus as the only affordable way to get a decent 600mm equiv.. I got a new 520 + kit lens + 70-300 (600 equivelant) for just over 500. My 2nd hand niokon 18-200 vr got nearly that much. the next nikon lens up was the 70-300 which just isn't that much more and its more money and after that it's mega buck.
what lens in nikon or canon gets anything like 600 mm equiv. So I sort of see the oly as a specialist setup that suits the wildlife photographer more than the others. Also some of the guys on here who shoot wildlife are quite a testament.
The only drawback in moving system for me is that although the 18-200 wasn't long enough for birds really. (although it took some crackers) I don't like changing lenses and so miss the superzoom..but no-one is going to make an oly 18-300 so thats life. If I see a bird in a landscape I might want take a picture of both and not have time to swap lenses but I find the 600 lens fantastic and something I could never buy in canon/nikon..
al
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

Hi Alex, and thanks for you reply.

I used to own the 70-300 Oly lens you have, and found it quite good, but not up to the competition in terms of IQ. For slow moving subjects it is fine, but for birds in flight it was left wanting in my opinion unless the light is good (not too often in the UK) though for the money it was excellent.

Never under estimate your future needs in Photography. When you start you might only be able to afford 700 (only 700!!) for a body and lens, but many people quickly find that their needs change and grow (BTW you did well for 500). Personally I just don't find the 70-300 to be capable enough as an all-rounder for most birds. Birds are very demanding subjects, and to do them well you need fast focussing, fast lenses (as fast as you can afford) so you can get fast shutter speeds. High frame rates are also very useful.

In comparable terms, your Oly lens is qbout equal in reach to my 50-200/EC-14 combo, but is a bit longer (not enough to make much difference). In turn the 50-200 + EC-14 is roughly equivalent to my Canon 100-400 zoom @350mm, but with that lens I do have the option of adding another 40% with a converter, and thus reaching 560mm. In 35mm this is just short of 900mm. Yes it is a bit heavier, and quite a lot more expensive, but it was within my grasp, so I went for it.

Don't get me wrong, the 70-300 is very good value, and versatile. I've seen some excellent results from it, but it does have its limits. If and when you ever out-grow it there seems to be nowhere else to go with Olympus for longer reach, without spending over 5000. Sigma do a 50-500mm which is quite good, but I remain to be convinced about the image quality and build, which seems to vary from unit to unit. It's very heavy too!

Apologies to other forum users for going a bit off-topic.

Regards,

Steve
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Old 9th January 2010
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Re: new oly dslr with hd video....

Yes if Zuiko produced a 200-400mm SWD f4 lens that would be great, who knows maybe it in the master plan.

Paul
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