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Windows 10 software condemned by Which? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37431343

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PS: There is also an interesting link to to be found on an Lenovo / Linux issue.
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Re: Old news... is new news

Hi thanks for this Wally, I don't know, but I must be one of the satisfied windows 10 user's, had win 10 for 10 months not had a issue, apart from a couple of drivers that would need updating, that was a notification I had before the upgrade, checked that there were updates available, before installing, my machine runs smoother quicker, than it did before, then it was win 10 64bt pro. Perhaps they look after pro versions better, who know, maybe the ones that had probes did not check full compatibility IE old type sound cards video card etc...

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Re: Old news... is new news

An article in The Times today complaining of webcams being rendered useless with the latest round of updates in Win10.
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Re: Old news... is new news

I find it good. A couple of Topaz plugins for PhotoShop (CS used) don't operate quite as tidily as with W7 but there is no loss of function. If the reference to Wi-Fi is to a domestic network then I have had no problem.

I changed the start menu to my preferences. The only con is the lack of direct access to System Restore off the star menu. And SR works, whereas it almost never did with W7. It lacked "This PC" (the new name for "My Computer of earlier version). That was easily fixed via God Mode (free download), which also accesses System Restore for me.

One feature I like, and use daily, is Task View. The Quick Access via This PC is also very useful.

I don't have a webcam, nor would I ever require one.

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Yes, that copy of "Which?" dropped onto the doormat immediately after I'd finally fixed a black screen on this computer resulting from Windows 10's latest "anniversary update". O the irony .

Can you point me at the Lenovo link please Wally? I don't see it on that page.
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Re: Old news... is new news

Windows 10 upgraded from 8.1 since August 2015 + Anniversary Update - no problems.
Wife's laptop Upgraded from 8.1 - Anniversary Update last week - no problems
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@ Otto - Lenovo Linux issue http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37431299
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Thanks Wally. Fortunately my two Lenovo machines aren't affected. What has become a pain though is Win10's apparently different boot system; I have an old Dell with an XP partition as well as a Win10 one. Before changing from Win 7 to 10 I could select which partition to boot into before any of Windows loaded, now it seems I have to load part of Win10 before I'm given the option to choose, and since the recent mega-update the machine regularly boots to a black screen so I'm stuck ... It's obviously loading Win10 OK because I can talk to it via my network, so it looks like a display issue. More wasted time and effort fixing the damn' thing!
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Re: Old news... is new news

Old news is of course liable to be a bit biased and sorry, but Which come across very much that way IMO - tending to sell to less tech savvy people who are not feeling they can do their own research & their scare stories are useful to get people calling their helplines & sell subscriptions

Lets put those "hundreds" of issues into perspective

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The Windows 10 Anniversary Update will be made available to the users running it on the now more than 350 million active Windows 10 devices (up from 300 million in early May).
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I have W10 on the original disk-drive that camw with the computer. I had changed from W8 to W8.1 then to W10 early on in the drive to update... didn't like any of them but I kept W10. I then installed W7 onto a new SSD and tried some time later to use W10. When changing back within the 30 days it screwed everything up and it was a real hassle to get the drive reset to use W7 as, from W8 they have used a new type of format. I might try W10 some time in the future as it is loaded to see if the ongoing updates have improved the OS.

I know you can get 3rd party add-ons to give an older version of the OS etc., but why didn't MS give that sort of option(s) when the feed-back from W8 showed that many were struggling with the new layout?

As for the data gathering, that is another issue I was worried about. As has been recently noted it is way OTT. Stories like Yahoo etc., getting hacked just add insult to injury.

It's a dangerous place out ther in the ether and not everyone is computer savvy, of which I am one. I pass these Safer Computing posts on in the hope such items can be used to assist friends / family members etc. who are less savvy all of which is left to the individual to take note or disregard.

Points raised on the forum posts whether for or against all help, or at least that's what I hope for.
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Now I've got used to it I quite like Win10, apart from the difficulty of fixing it when it goes wrong. But why oh why does Microsoft keep changing the file structure? With this latest update Libraries seem to have disappeared altogether on this new machine, but remain visible on the old one which was originally running Win7!
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I really wouldn't take anything Which? say on technology matters with any degree of respect. Maybe they have a place for reviewing washing machines - maybe. However, I must say I'm not a fan of Windows 10 for lots of reasons. Ignoring all the technical challenges of the upgrade, I just think it looks plain ugly and I hate the tiles interface - I can never find anything.

Quick tip on this last point - install 'Classic Shell' and you'll have something looking a lot like Windows 7 again.
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Meanwhile, I'll just keep on using Win7.
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Meanwhile, I'll just keep on using Win7.
Wise decision - that's what I'm doing on my main PC. I have Windows 10 on my office PC and hate it. OTOH, I have a Windows tablet with it on and there it works fine. I think that's the point - Windows 10 is really an evolution of Windows 8 and that was first and foremost a tablet OS. Windoze 10 on the desktop just doesn't cut it.
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I find it good. A couple of Topaz plugins for PhotoShop (CS used) don't operate quite as tidily as with W7 but there is no loss of function. If the reference to Wi-Fi is to a domestic network then I have had no problem.

I changed the start menu to my preferences. The only con is the lack of direct access to System Restore off the star menu. And SR works, whereas it almost never did with W7. It lacked "This PC" (the new name for "My Computer of earlier version). That was easily fixed via God Mode (free download), which also accesses System Restore for me.

One feature I like, and use daily, is Task View. The Quick Access via This PC is also very useful.

I don't have a webcam, nor would I ever require one.

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