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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

Thanks David, if I can do it anyone can

(People tell me I have a lucky camera to get such good shots to which I reply - funny that, the more I use it the luckier it gets )

I do think that is the answer though, being retired I have the chance to shoot every day - so eventually things just happen to come together and improve

I definitely rate the EM-1 + 75-300 as good as the 5Dmk2 + 70-300LIS for this type of work (not quite there for IQ though) and its pretty darned close to my 7D now I'm getting to grips with it
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

hang on.....my em-1 and 75-300 does not take images like that. It must be faulty!


On a serious note the sharpness is stunning and motivates me to try harder.

Thank you for the tips re shutter speed, sadly last week I lost a great opportunity with a water rail due to a slow shutter speed.

With birds in flight would you have IS off and pan? many thanks!

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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

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sadly last week I lost a great opportunity with a water rail due to a slow shutter speed.
I can sympathise Jonathan, one shot across an opening in the reeds at Arundel, just when I was shooting directly into the sun (and it was in the shade) - first one I'd seen for a couple of years too

As to IS and birds in flight, most of the time I stick it in IS/1 and leave it there as I find that tracking birds across the sky doesn't usually involve much in the way of rapid panning (except for a quick, close pass by a Peregrine of course )

I need to have the IS on the be able to get and keep the bird in the EVF (I shake too much otherwise when in the 100mm + range)
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

Lovely sharp bright images.
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

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I can sympathise Jonathan, one shot across an opening in the reeds at Arundel, just when I was shooting directly into the sun (and it was in the shade) - first one I'd seen for a couple of years too

As to IS and birds in flight, most of the time I stick it in IS/1 and leave it there as I find that tracking birds across the sky doesn't usually involve much in the way of rapid panning (except for a quick, close pass by a Peregrine of course )

I need to have the IS on the be able to get and keep the bird in the EVF (I shake too much otherwise when in the 100mm + range)
Thank you Brian, hopefully I will do better tomorrow!
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

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I'll post a few when I return
I look forward to seeing some of your images when you get back David

In fact, why not throw this open to anyone shooting birds with this comb so we can show just what it is capable of?
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

I don't have any bird photos taken with the E-M1 and 75-300 worth posting but purely out of interest tonight I weighed the two birding camera and lens combinations which I have at the moment. The first is my 'old' E-30 with the 50-200 SWD and EC-14. The other is the E-M1 and 75-300 II. Both cameras were ready for use with a battery, card and strap.

The results:
The E-30 combination weighed in at 2.15 KG.
The E-M1 setup was a paltry 1.1 KG.

Bearing in mind that I have severe problems with my right shoulder and arm at the moment I think it is worth persisting with the E-M1 and 75-300 to see if it can get results like yours Brian.

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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

Can I just say that as a Macro??? 4/3rds user, these are most impressive, the camera and lens compliment each other so well, superb detail throughout, really enjoying the thread.
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

Oooh, looks like a female red-crested pochard.
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

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Bearing in mind that I have severe problems with my right shoulder and arm at the moment I think it is worth persisting with the E-M1 and 75-300 to see if it can get results like yours Brian.
That's what made me switch from my Canon kit Ron, only in my case its my neck and left arm "assembly".

In my case it was definitely worth investing a bit of time to learn a slightly different technique for birding and well worth the frustration of going through the frustration of not being able to do what was relatively easy with the old gear during the transition period so give it a go.

Pete, thanks for ID'ing it Pete, I hadn't got around to looking in my books (and my memory is such that by the time I got home I had forgotten what it said on the signs at Arundel )
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

A quick wander along our local Mudeford Harbour Quayside this morning gave me the chance to have another go at birding with this combo, with more chances at some flight shots.

The light was a bit garish, strong contrast and a bit "glary" without a lot of strength, so in the main I was playing with ISO400 - 1600 and the shutter speed 1/1600th sec and above and a mix of CAF or SAF.

For most of the time I was shooting using the "Seen it - shot it" method, without pre-focusing or lining up the shot. With this I was getting about 50% sharp with either method.

When I staked out a location (Starlings perched on a roof / rigging or a mob of gulls fighting for food for example) the success rate went up to about 70%

I won't flood the thread with loads more images (but will put up a few which I think show something new or of interest). Otherwise - if you are interested you can see a selection here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7544509...h/10887105586/
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

Brian, beautiful colours and stunning detail ! I too LURVE this lens and ONE extremely versatile
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

A few which may be of interest

I had a go at shooting Starlings in flight, either as they approached / took off from a roof or with a few, as they flew straight at me from over the roof, as here:



This required ISO 1600 to get a fast enough shutter speed (working at 1/400th sec all I got was blurred / OOF shots - fast those Starlings )

Centre focus SAF mode, 6.5 fps with centre point normal size, this is a very large crop (around 10% of original frame height)

Three shots of the feeding melee, the first showing the chaotic situation and the next two trying to isolate a specific subject



Trying for the Swan's head




Trying to isolate the gull coming toward me out of the frame (I followed it in and out, got about 2 sharp out of 3 frames, using CAF and 6.5fps)




The more I use this combo the better it getting and the more confidence I have it will do the job. Not surprisingly, good light is the key, ideally over the shoulder or at 90 degrees to the shot
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

What were your settings Brian ?
ISO ? Vivid Art Filter ? Contrast up high ?
and did you use the magnify focus Green square ?
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Re: EM-1 + 75-300 Bird Images

Is the EXIF not showing again? these are from my flikr gallery and I thought that even though I can't see it others were able to

Starlings: converted from RAW in LR5,

Exposure1/5000 secAperturef/8.0Focal Length300 mmISO Speed1600Exposure Bias+0.3 EV


Feeding 1 converted from RAW, minimal processing

EXIF data hasn't transferred for some reason, but shot with ISO1600 and 1/4000th sec f8

Feeding 2 Swan Head from the RAW

Exposure0.001 sec (1/1600)Aperturef/8.0Focal Length187 mmISO Speed400Exposure Bias0 EV



Feeding 3, isolated gull from the RAW

how odd, another one that has lost its EXIF

ISO 400 with f8 for 1/1600th sec

all these were shot using the smallest single focus box, centred

No filters applied (would have been lost in the RAW file anyway). The Starling and #1 feeding shot were processed with Daylight colour balance in LR5 and the other two with Cloudy colour balance.

I think I had to de-saturate the two that I processed in Cloud white balance as the colour of the water was a bit hectic and I also dropped the contrast and clarity sliders a few notches on the 3 "Gull" shots
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