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Campus censorship Ďan epidemicí at UK universities?

I read an interesting but worrying article in The Times today about censorship in Britain's university campuses. I cannot find the article online [yet] but I did find two related articles; one in The Independent and one in The Spectator.

(There was an altogether more sensational article in The Sun but I didn't bother with that, or the side bar explaining to Sun readers what a university was. )

There was a time when our universities were a haven for liberalism and free speech but no longer. I did wonder where this censorship was coming from but reading the article in The Independent it seems students’ unions are four times more likely to put bans in place on campus than the universities themselves.

Am I the only one to find this insidious censorship rather worrying? If free thinking is no longer allowed at university where will our free thinkers come from?


The Independent: Campus censorship ‘an epidemic’ at UK universities?l

The Spectator: Millennials don’t fear censorship because they plan on doing all the censoring
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I read an interesting but worrying article in The Times today about censorship in Britain's university campuses. I cannot find the article online [yet] but I did find two related articles; one in The Independent and one in The Spectator.

(There was an altogether more sensational article in The Sun but I didn't bother with that, or the side bar explaining to Sun readers what a university was. )

There was a time when our universities were a haven for liberalism and free speech but no longer. I did wonder where this censorship was coming from but reading the article in The Independent it seems students’ unions are four times more likely to put bans in place on campus than the universities themselves.

Am I the only one to find this insidious censorship rather worrying? If free thinking is no longer allowed at university where will our free thinkers come from?


The Independent: Campus censorship ‘an epidemic’ at UK universities?l

The Spectator: Millennials don’t fear censorship because they plan on doing all the censoring

I agree. The snowflake contingency of students today seem to want to ban anyone who dares share an alternative view. Its the exact opposite of what life at a University is supposed to be about.


Its even worse in America These are our future ?


just amazing.
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I agree. The snowflake contingency of students today seem to want to ban anyone who dares share an alternative view. Its the exact opposite of what life at a University is supposed to be about.


Its even worse in America These are our future ?

https://twitter.com/YAAS_America/sta...85849796775936

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Why do you always use derogatory terms when referring to the younger generation?

OK Boomer seems to be the accepted new response to this type of comment
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Why do you always use derogatory terms when referring to the younger generation?

OK Boomer seems to be the accepted new response to this type of comment
It's not derogatory it is an accurate description of those who want to close down debate. I did not say all youngsters are snowflakes just the ones that try and stop sharing of alternative ideas and think the whole world should revolve around them. They are all me me me and would benefit from a spell of military service.

I have no idea what a Boomer is? If its someone who says what he thinks and argues his case then fine.
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Re: Campus censorship Ďan epidemicí at UK universities?

According to the snowflake millennials (who you could argue were brought up by Boomers) said Boomers are those of us born between the end of WW2 and mid60s (?).
Because these millennials feel they need to blame everything on someone else then it’s their parents generation who are seen as at fault. We should respond to the childish ‘OK Boomer’ comment with an equally childish ‘ OK Millennial’
So remember, everything bad is someone else’s fault.
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Dave, I think the term 'Boomer' refers to 'Baby Boomers who are generally held to have been born between 1946 and 1964.

I suppose that includes me then.
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It's not derogatory it is an accurate description of those who want to close down debate. I did not say all youngsters are snowflakes just the ones that try and stop sharing of alternative ideas and think the whole world should revolve around them. They are all me me me and would benefit from a spell of military service.

I have no idea what a Boomer is? If its someone who says what he thinks and argues his case then fine.
You are still using a derogatory term whether its for a small group or the entire collective.
No different to "Gammon" which I recall ruffles a few feathers

National service was hardly a success probably the reason it was discontinued in 1960.
The younger generation would say the Boomers are all me, me, me and in many ways they are right.
Get over it, your day has been and gone, whether you like it or not these youngsters will soon be running the show.
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I suppose that includes me then.
OK Boomer....
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Get over it, your day has been and gone, whether you like it or not these youngsters will soon be running the show.
Someone not valuing the life experience that comes with age.
At the rate the younger generation (vocal minority) are going there wonít be a show to run anymore.
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Dave, I think the term 'Boomer' refers to 'Baby Boomers who are generally held to have been born between 1946 and 1964.

I suppose that includes me then.
Thanks for explaining.
So yes, I am one.
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Thanks for explaining.
So yes, I am one.
Me too !

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Here we go again, all the usual suspects wound up like the Duracell bunny
(small cuddly toy powered by dry cells)
Leave you to it then, have a good one and watch out for those meddling kids
(reference to Scooby Doo, look that one up)
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Here we go again, all the usual suspects wound up like the Duracell bunny
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Leave you to it then, have a good one and watch out for those meddling kids
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You are still using a derogatory term whether its for a small group or the entire collective.
No different to "Gammon" which I recall ruffles a few feathers

National service was hardly a success probably the reason it was discontinued in 1960.
The younger generation would say the Boomers are all me, me, me and in many ways they are right.
Get over it, your day has been and gone, whether you like it or not these youngsters will soon be running the show.

Oh dear.
What is a Gammon? I am so sorry for not using the latest terms.

Yes, I am now retired but I certainly was prepared to work hard to get what I wanted. To argue my point but still learn from others.

When bringing up my kids they sometimes would say something that happened was not fair. I told them if there is one lesson they need to learn in life its the fact that the world is not fair. You get out what you put in - less tax of course
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Here we go again, all the usual suspects wound up like the Duracell bunny
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Leave you to it then, have a good one and watch out for those meddling kids
(reference to Scooby Doo, look that one up)
Wow I feel really elated ! Not only have I realised I am a Boomer but also no doubt classed as a " usual suspect ".

Recognition at last !

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