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Re: The real reason we use mirroless cameras

Yes, canned beer is not what it used to be. I can't tell the difference between canned and bottled versions of the same beer, but I much prefer the cask version anyway!
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Have you tried recently? I am a real ale enthusiast and have recently moved to more cans that bottles. Frankly, I can't tell the difference any more than I can between a straight glass and a "jug"

Try those with lots of flavour, such as Ghost Ship, Directors, Ruddle's County or Old Speckled Hen.

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Locally I've only seen Ghost Ship in bottles though I admit the others are drinkable & I've seen them in cans often enough. when out & about I tend to drink from the bottle, drinking direct from the can gives a metallic taste - similar to the beer they served in Russia - enough to turn anyone to shorts!
All the beers I like are those with lots of flavour, generally preferring the darker varieties with less hops than the Speckled hen. (Not necessarily high alcohol some of the Milds are good)
Favorites are winter ales & Belgium Doubles (especially Roquefort 8) . A recent find being Hatherwoods 'Winter warmer' (Currently 1.25 in Lidl - must remeber to stock up before they run out.)
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Yes, canned beer is not what it used to be. I can't tell the difference between canned and bottled versions of the same beer, but I much prefer the cask version anyway!
Have you ever tried carrying a cask along with your camera stuff??
I've carried a polypin (18 pints IIRC) for a few miles, & it got be a bit of a struggle. Must have got weak at the knees as I could barely Stand
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Re: The real reason we use mirroless cameras

A polypin is 36 pints. The "pin" is one of the standard barrel sizes - the "barrel" sort of got standardized a very long time ago at 36 gallons. Half a barrel, 18 gallons, was a kilderkin and half a kilderkin was a firkin. Halve it again and you get a pin, 4.5 gallons = 36 pints.

Hence the old brewers' expression "For two pins I'd give you a firkin".

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Thanks John,
I remembered later that the 18 pint ones were sold as demipins. some what easier to carry, but still worth using my modified rucksack.
On these old trips several people claimed to have manged a Firkin over the course of a week. It may be a firkin small measure but its more than I can manage
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Have you ever tried carrying a cask along with your camera stuff??
No, I take a flask of coffee and then go to the pub afterwards .
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Locally I've only seen Ghost Ship in bottles though I admit the others are drinkable & I've seen them in cans often enough. when out & about I tend to drink from the bottle, drinking direct from the can gives a metallic taste - ......
That is an interesting observation.

The only part of the package that cannot be coated is the edge of the metal cap where the can is opened by the ring pull.

I have never noticed a metallic taste when drinking canned beer from a glass, but there is sometimes a slightly metallic taste when drinking it directly.

Under normal circumstances the aluminium surface will form a protective oxide layer almost instantly on exposure, so there should be little risk of the beer becoming tainted. However, in drinking directly from the container (which I would aver is common behaviour! ) the oxide layer may be disturbed, and contact with the lips will give a metallic taste.
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I have never noticed a metallic taste when drinking canned beer from a glass, but there is sometimes a slightly metallic taste when drinking it directly.
It's the alzheimers kicking in - aluminium and brain cells don't go well together! I remember pots and pans being aluminium, until they realised the link and cause.
As an aside, aluminium in drinking water used to be a problem for long term dialysis patients - having realised the link, health authorities introduced reverse osmosis to filter the water for dialysis.
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It's the alzheimers kicking in - aluminium and brain cells don't go well together! I remember pots and pans being aluminium, until they realised the link and cause.
As an aside, aluminium in drinking water used to be a problem for long term dialysis patients - having realised the link, health authorities introduced reverse osmosis to filter the water for dialysis.
I don't know whether the link between aluminium and Alzheimer's has ever been proven, has it?

Tea contains a lot of aluminium, and there were concerns that it might increase the risk of Alzheimer's, but I thought that had now been dismissed.

However, the greatest risk when using aluminium pans was the addition of sodium ions to the water (in other words cooking salt) which significantly increased the quantity of aluminium (and salt) in cooked vegetables!

The solubility of aluminium in pure water is negligible, otherwise pans would soon become too thin to cook in.
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Re: The real reason we use mirroless cameras

You're right, not Alzheimer's, but according to the clinicians I was in touch with when I worked in the industry, it was thought that there was a link with dementia. I remember reverse osmosis water treatment being introduced. ~10 years or more of dialysis on bog standard tap water had an attendant risk of dementia.
Regarding pans, yes you need to liberate aluminium cations.
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Mirrors used to use an amalgam of tin and mercury - that's a good reason to go mirrorless!
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Mirrors used to use an amalgam of tin and mercury - that's a good reason to go mirrorless!
Yes. Mercury was also used by hat makers, hence the term "mad as a hatter"!

(I can even remember high street outfitters using it to prepare top hats for use.)
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When I was at school doing O levels, just a few years back , we were invited to submerge our hands in a bath of mercury - whilst no doubt inhaling mucuric oxide - the invitation being from a teacher!! God knows where he was taught to be a science teacher!!
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