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Re: Burglar (dead) flowers laid opposite victims house he broke into

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My sentiments exactly. There is a serous inabalence/disparity as a whole, for less offences. TBH it stretches beyond the Police as the laws have not evolved covering travelers occupying land/sites without permission in the majority of cases. The police will not dare upset communities such as this due to fear of repercussions.
There is also the fear of the 'race card' and the ECHR; both of which have been used before.

Plod finds it much safer to persecute otherwise law abiding car drivers for exceeding speed limits by a couple of miles an hour. It is a pity the police don't apply the same standards to flat bed Transit vans towing large caravans adorned with tasteless amounts of chrome.
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From memory dont think the majority of culprits were from a travelling community either.
That was not my contention. It's just another issue involving nuisance on land by persons who should not be there doing what they are doing.

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Fair point we have big issues with fly tipping locally, mainly on quiet footpaths next to fields, very frustrating and has massive financial implications. Dont see too much here on private land.
I remember watching a program a few years ago, which followed a local authority who invested heavily in catching those responsible. It was very good and in a short space of time following successful prosecutions the levels of tipping dropped. From memory dont think the majority of culprits were frrom a travelling community either. I bet you would see a rise in tipping around surrounding local authorities who have a less proative approach.
The police here in Co Durham had a purge on uninsured cars a few years ago, I think with sponsorship from Aviva or one of the big insurance companies.

The majority of offending vehicles were taken away and cubed, putting them beyond further use. The few that were worth selling were taken to auction.

The police reported that not only did this significantly improve road safety (untaxed, uninsured vehicles are rarely driven by the best drivers), but crime was also reduced because criminals no longer had a means of travelling to commit crime.
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There is also the fear of the 'race card'
Isn't that a list of losers held by race-goers?

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That was not my contention. It's just another issue involving nuisance on land by persons who should not be there doing what they are doing.

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I just mentioned it due to the original topic/offender :-) True say why can't people be happy with the land they have got and enjoy it for what it is.
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The worst effect of fly tipping is the hazardous waste these low life individuals dump without any concerns of the possible consequences to people and the environment.

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Re: Burglar (dead) flowers laid opposite victims house he broke into

These things are complicated and feelings are clearly running high.

I can speak as one who has had a floral tribute laid close to my home (someone jumped off a bridge close to where I live onto a dual carriageway). I have to say I did not like it and I did not appreciate it being repeated on the anniversary as I had just begun to forget about it all - and when it happened again on the 3rd year a few of us decided to "tidy it up" after just a couple of days

However we did not make any big scene and there were no repercussions.

Thankfully it stopped being repeated

Overall I don't like them they put a lot of litter into the environment and I am sure that there are better ways to remember people - if you do want flowers then put a flowerpot outside your own front door and think about them every time you pass it and tidy it up when the flowers have passed seems a much better idea to me

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Re: Burglar (dead) flowers laid opposite victims house he broke into

We do occasionally get bridge jumpers in the River Tawe, Swansea. Not had one by the boat yet............though have save two lives.......

Loads of flowers etc, and they do get repeated for a year or two. Not a worry, but just makes you sad at the loss of a life, sometimes after a drinking session in the local booze street.

Its humanity....................
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