Campus censorship ‘an epidemic’ at UK universities?

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by Tram

National service was hardly a success probably the reason it was discontinued in 1960.

I just missed National Service and was glad at the time that I did - but I often think that it would have done me good in my late teens.

Jim

[Tram]

Originally Posted by Jax

Wow I feel really elated ! Not only have I realised I am a Boomer but also no doubt classed as a " usual suspect ".

Recognition at last !

Jax

You are actually just a pet of some others on here
Always ready with a like, thanks or supporting comment.
Safer to be part of a group and to egg others on to do your bidding

Coward is a better description, so recognition is yours, congratulations.

[MJ224]

I'm a Boomer too, and so what...……..

If the younger generations think we are to blame for everything, watch this BBC video.

The snowflakes are the new gestapo ….:-(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/techno...rse-each-other

[TimP]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

I just missed National Service and was glad at the time that I did - but I often think that it would have done me good in my late teens.

Jim

I think you’re right. You’ve have learned a trade surely. I was lucky and went straight into an apprenticeship direct from school and not been out of work for a day since. Whether by luck or ability I have no idea.

[TimP]

Originally Posted by Jax

Wow I feel really elated ! Not only have I realised I am a Boomer but also no doubt classed as a " usual suspect ".

Recognition at last !

Jax

Welcome aboard!

[TimP]

Originally Posted by MJ224

I'm a Boomer too, and so what...……..

If the younger generations think we are to blame for everything, watch this BBC video.

For me it’s more a case of them seemingly being unable to take any responsibility for anything not quite to their liking, making it someone else’s fault.
According to them, no-ones perfect except them... oh, so, so much to learn.

[wornish]

Originally Posted by TimP

I think you’re right. You’ve have learned a trade surely. I was lucky and went straight into an apprenticeship direct from school and not been out of work for a day since. Whether by luck or ability I have no idea.

Probably mostly ability with a bit of luck. I think people can make their own "luck" by being seen to be trying to do something rather than giving up.

[Internaut]

Overall, I think the problem is massively overblown by the wrong, the far wrong and the alt-wrong, who seem to have some kind of bee in their bonnet regarding freedom of expression. I'm not sure why - if any of these people ever get into power, the history of the extreme wrong suggests freedom expression will be the first thing to go.

[MJ224]

Originally Posted by TimP

For me it’s more a case of them seemingly being unable to take any responsibility for anything not quite to their liking, making it someone else’s fault.
According to them, no-ones perfect except them... oh, so, so much to learn.

Sounds just like my kids...………….

They say you should employ 10-12 years olds, as they know everything...………...

[Naughty Nigel]

Originally Posted by wornish

Oh dear.
What is a Gammon? I am so sorry for not using the latest terms.

The term Gammon is a derogatory racist and ageist term used by some (mainly Millennials) to describe the skin colour, complexion and age of 'outraged angry old white men' with high blood pressure who may read the Sun, The Daily Mail or similar outraged rags.

[Zuiko]

Originally Posted by Tram

You are actually just a pet of some others on here
Always ready with a like, thanks or supporting comment.
Safer to be part of a group and to egg others on to do your bidding

Coward is a better description, so recognition is yours, congratulations.

There are a number of derogatory generalisations being used in this thread, but I think "coward" is a bit too strong and a bit too personal. Can we exercise restraint please, chaps.

[Naughty Nigel]

Originally Posted by TimP

For me it’s more a case of them seemingly being unable to take any responsibility for anything not quite to their liking, making it someone else’s fault.
According to them, no-ones perfect except them... oh, so, so much to learn.

But where does this all come from? is it parents, schools, children's television or perhaps social media?

I do wonder whether over-liberalisation of our schools is part of the problem. I remember when our children were at primary school (1998 - 2009) there could be 'no winners or losers' at the school sports day. This always seemed to be a slippery slope to me. There will always be winners and losers whether we like it or not and competitiveness (or the lack of) certainly doesn't stop at the school gates.

For a while there was a parents race and a parents egg and spoon race but those events were quietly dropped as it was claimed that some parents were 'too competitive' and that children of less competitive parents could be upset by it all.

[TimP]

Originally Posted by Naughty Nigel

But where does this all come from? is it parents, schools, children's television or perhaps social media?

I do wonder whether over-liberalisation of our schools is part of the problem. I remember when our children were at primary school (1998 - 2009) there could be 'no winners or losers' at the school sports day. This always seemed to be a slippery slope to me. There will always be winners and losers whether we like it or not and competitiveness (or the lack of) certainly doesn't stop at the school gates.

For a while there was a parents race and a parents egg and spoon race but those events were quietly dropped as it was claimed that some parents were 'too competitive' and that children of less competitive parents could be upset by it all.

All of the above, we certainly didn’t do the best of jobs as parents but he’s not a snowflake. Over-liberalisation of schools, certainly. The winner / loser thing is hardly preparing them for the real world. Surely the young teachers (who we hold to blame here) are the very same millennials. Saying that, I wouldn’t be a teacher for love or money nowadays, at least we had discipline when I was at school. Nowadays kids and young adults think they are untouchable (probably are given the state of the police force, sorry service)

[MJ224]

Its not all young people who are stroppy. But those who are, come from the way we/? have given them RIGHTS, a word that they don't understand the implications. In my book, RIGHTS come with OBLIGATIONS and RESPECT, a message that does not seem to come through...

Our flaming politicians need to read that book as well.....

[Naughty Nigel]

Originally Posted by MJ224

In my book, RIGHTS come with OBLIGATIONS and RESPECT, a message that does not seem to come through...

Rights and responsibilities.

Responsibility is somehow missing from many people's lives today which is why they get into the mess they do and then expect 'the government' (i.e. all of us) to bail them out.

Responsibilities should extend to not spending money we don't have or cannot afford to repay, not buying unnecessary or unaffordable fashion statements, not having children we cannot raise properly and not indulging in excesses which damage our health and end up costing the NHS £millions.