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Do you want a second chance?

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Re: Do you want a second chance?

I have signed. Over a million and counting.....
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

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Threshold is 100k but I doubt it will come to anything. I'd be surprised it legislation could act retrospectively. And morally the leave supporters would raise a stink if it did.
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

I seem to remember Farage saying earlier in the year that if it was a close remain result, another referendum would be in order.
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

Hmmm - the petition will at best trigger a debate about it. It would be a brave House of Commons that decided to ignore the first result and do it again. As much as I like the idea I'm sure it would lead to a terrible constitutional crisis and probably more division and acrimony within the country.
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Hmmm - the petition will at best trigger a debate about it. It would be a brave House of Commons that decided to ignore the first result and do it again. As much as I like the idea I'm sure it would lead to a terrible constitutional crisis and probably more division and acrimony within the country.
I suspect a second referendum would cause even more problems than the first; whatever the outcome.
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

30% of the UK population voted for out.... and I suspect a few of them did not realise what they were voting for!
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

I'm sure the majority verdict was really aimed at the ability to throw out undesirables (foreign criminals) and less eurocratic red tape but with little thought as to the other implications. Perhaps the time for a second referendum is when leave negotiations have taken place and we know what "leave" means.
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30% of the UK population voted for out.... and I suspect a few of them did not realise what they were voting for!

But even fewer voted to stay in!


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I'm sure the majority verdict was really aimed at the ability to throw out undesirables (foreign criminals) and less eurocratic red tape but with little thought as to the other implications. Perhaps the time for a second referendum is when leave negotiations have taken place and we know what "leave" means.

I somehow doubt the French will allow us to do that, unless we cross their collective palms with silver perhaps.
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

I wonder if there would have been a demand for a second referendum had the vote gone the other way?
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

I will be very surprised if the UK leaves the EU completely, I suspect a compromise will be reached.

Don't forget that, although the PM stated that he'd honour the publics decision, the referendum was an advisory, non-binding referendum. The Government could put the decision to a vote by MP's who, if they chose to remain would have the final say.

As David Cameron has announced his resignation and has said he won't invoke article 50 before he leaves office, who's to say his successor will decide to honour the publics vote?

Sadly, it appears that if we leave the EU it may eventually lead to the break up of the United Kingdom, I don't thing our Government will allow that to happen.
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I wonder if there would have been a demand for a second referendum had the vote gone the other way?
I don't think the Leavers would act so hurt about it as the Remain camp have, but I'm sure Private Walker (Nigel Farage) would make plenty of noise.
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

The margin was less than four percent. That is not a mandate for such a dramatic change. It appears that the vast majority of young people voted to stay, whereas the Leave vote was largely from the older generation - who won't have as long to live with the consequences.

The referendum was not legally binding and with such a narrow margin (down in the noise level really) there is no way it should be regarded as decisive. In my view Cameron should not have resigned in such a knee-jerk manner until the dust had settled and the results properly analysed.

I was not decisively in favour of either remaining or leaving but I chose Remain on the basis of better the devil you know, and because the young people I spoke to were in favour of that choice. They are the ones who'll have to live with it.

Did anyone ask Vote Leave how, if they used that mythical 350m a week to build lots of new hospitals, they proposed to staff them?

I signed the petition his morning.
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It appears that the vast majority of young people voted to stay, whereas the Leave vote was largely from the older generation - who won't have as long to live with the consequences.
The 'vast majority' of young people didn't vote at all, which is why we have the outcome that we do.
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Re: Do you want a second chance?

Well I've signed as well - hopefully all those "well I voted leave, but I did it as a protest, I never REALLY wnted to leave" voters will sign up too!
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