Olympus UK E-System User Group
Olympus UK E-System User Group

Join our unique resource for Olympus Four Thirds E-System DSLR and Pen and OM-D Micro Four Thirds photographers. Show your images via our free e-group photo gallery. Please read the e-group.uk.net forum terms and conditions before posting for the first time. Above all, welcome!


Go Back   Olympus UK E-System User Group > Out of Focus area > The lounge

The lounge Relax, take a break from photo and camera talk - have a chat about something else for a change. Just keep it clean and polite!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #136  
Old 21st August 2008
sapper sapper is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Leigh on Sea, Essex
Posts: 5,005
Thanks: 184
Thanked 451 Times in 254 Posts
Likes: 402
Liked 946 Times in 363 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

I know this, we have just had police overkill in Kent. But, the police knew in advance and were able to put in resources. If lots of photographers were to do as I suggest, but only for a short time and not publicise in advance, it would send a strong message to both public and police, both who need educating it seems.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Bowman View Post
Don't underestimate the police's willingness to put limitless resources into intimidating and bullying the public.

Strutting around harassing people for taking photographs is a lot easier than catching people who have committed actual crimes.
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #137  
Old 31st August 2008
Ellie Ellie is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SW Hants, UK
Posts: 2,382
Thanks: 62
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

I saw something on the news recently that offered a glimmer of hope, but I can't find it again. It was about a Police force giving residents cameras so they could photograph antisocial behaviour.

That crumb of good news doesn't seem to be balanced by these articles though Has our increasingly paranoid society declared war on the humble 'weekend snapper'?
and
Man arrested and locked up for five hours after taking photo of police van ignoring 'no entry' sign
__________________
- my pictures -
Reply With Quote
  #138  
Old 2nd February 2009
Graham_of_Rainham's Avatar
Graham_of_Rainham Graham_of_Rainham is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rainham
Posts: 8,102
Thanks: 642
Thanked 939 Times in 727 Posts
Likes: 2,263
Liked 1,580 Times in 910 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

Yet another step...

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/sho...ml?page=836646
__________________
Graham

We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...
Reply With Quote
  #139  
Old 2nd February 2009
skyman1's Avatar
skyman1 skyman1 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N.E.Lincs
Posts: 331
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie View Post
I saw something on the news recently that offered a glimmer of hope, but I can't find it again. It was about a Police force giving residents cameras so they could photograph antisocial behaviour.

[/URL]
there is a bit about CCTV here
http://www.northants.police.uk/defau...ticle&ID=15346
__________________
Cheers

Mick

Petroleums Hey
retired oil boiler
Reply With Quote
  #140  
Old 14th April 2009
Graham_of_Rainham's Avatar
Graham_of_Rainham Graham_of_Rainham is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rainham
Posts: 8,102
Thanks: 642
Thanked 939 Times in 727 Posts
Likes: 2,263
Liked 1,580 Times in 910 Posts
Exclamation Re: Photographer's rights

For once an "interesting" debate...

It starts half way down page 4 and goes on to page 5
http://www.publications.parliament.u...90401h0004.htm

or you can watch it

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Vi...47&st=11:00:00

If you're stopped you can quote from this. On second thoughts quoting an MP could seriously reduce you credibility.
__________________
Graham

We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...

Last edited by Graham_of_Rainham; 14th April 2009 at 09:55 AM. Reason: Video feed added
Reply With Quote
  #141  
Old 11th July 2009
Graham_of_Rainham's Avatar
Graham_of_Rainham Graham_of_Rainham is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rainham
Posts: 8,102
Thanks: 642
Thanked 939 Times in 727 Posts
Likes: 2,263
Liked 1,580 Times in 910 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

As the subject has not been aired for a while, I thought you may like to see this.

http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm

__________________
Graham

We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 11th July 2009
sapper sapper is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Leigh on Sea, Essex
Posts: 5,005
Thanks: 184
Thanked 451 Times in 254 Posts
Likes: 402
Liked 946 Times in 363 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham_of_Rainham View Post
As the subject has not been aired for a while, I thought you may like to see this.

http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm

Similar things happen in the USA.
http://www.krages. com/phoright. htm
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #143  
Old 11th July 2009
Trausti Hraunfjord
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Photographer's rights

heh... I almost got arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist planning some attacks... because I had a big bulky camera mounted on a panorama head (even bigger) and that was again mounted on a tripod... me being almost 2 meters tall, always wearing a hat and very visible here in Lilleput land (Peru) amongst the small people.

I was supposedly "close" to the US and Israeli embassies (not that I could see either one from where I was going to shoot a panorama), and a grumpy police fascist demanded documents and permissions and explanations... I gave him nothing of the kind, only telling him that this was a PUBLIC place (between 2 roads), and as such, the PUBLIC could do whatever they wanted there, including taking pictures. He pushed me, while going for his gun with the right hand, and I saw that the situation was going out of control for him. So I asked if he really thought a terrorist would go around with a big bulky and extremely visible photographing equipment, rather than pretending to speak on a camera equipped cellular phone, and taking pictures CLOSE TO the intended targets. ... and finished off saying: "I don't think anyone can be stupid enough to think terrorists are that dumb"... (of course meaning that HE had to be that dumb). That did it for him. He told me to move further away, and considering that I was obviously dealing with a moron, I did, just to avoid getting arrested or shot for no reason.

Unfortunately there are no "rights" per se (through the letter of the law) for photographers here in Peru... it's a rather free floating issue, and can be abused by authorities and private property owners.
Reply With Quote
  #144  
Old 11th July 2009
jonesy jonesy is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 733
Thanks: 65
Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Likes: 58
Liked 62 Times in 29 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

Thanks for posting those links.

I'm off to New York in a few weeks, and will take a copy of the PDF with me. Though I wouldnt want to annoy the American police
__________________
Tracey Jones

Its a shame that humans dont come with autofocus, like cameras do!
Reply With Quote
  #145  
Old 17th July 2009
sapper sapper is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Leigh on Sea, Essex
Posts: 5,005
Thanks: 184
Thanked 451 Times in 254 Posts
Likes: 402
Liked 946 Times in 363 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

A story in my local paper re a guy arrested, handcuffed, put in police van for 20 min, then de arrested. See his blog
http://monaxle.com/
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #146  
Old 11th February 2010
Graham_of_Rainham's Avatar
Graham_of_Rainham Graham_of_Rainham is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rainham
Posts: 8,102
Thanks: 642
Thanked 939 Times in 727 Posts
Likes: 2,263
Liked 1,580 Times in 910 Posts
Unhappy Re: Photographer's rights

Stopped & Searched 3 times in 45 Mins

http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=1477
__________________
Graham

We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...
Reply With Quote
  #147  
Old 11th February 2010
Zuiko's Avatar
Zuiko Zuiko is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dunmow, Essex
Posts: 22,060
Thanks: 1,984
Thanked 3,147 Times in 2,456 Posts
Likes: 3,383
Liked 4,454 Times in 2,115 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

Very worrying. In this incident the police were either very stupid or very cynical in using their powers to deliberately prevent a journalist from doing his job. But it shouldn't just be accredited members of the press who are allowed to record events. All togs, amateur or professional should have equal rights in a fair and free society. Forget terrorism, this is the real threat we are facing.
__________________
John

"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 11th February 2010
Meogeo's Avatar
Meogeo Meogeo is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Warrington UK
Posts: 140
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Photographer's rights

Police State comes to mind, police officers have more rights to search anyone at any time does not matter who you are, if they can go into the houses of parliment with search warrants then they can get away with anything.
__________________
Geoff
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Olympus and The Disabled Photographer's Society beardedwombat The lounge 1 19th December 2007 04:44 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:25 AM.


The Write Technology Ltd, 2007-2019, All rights reservedAd Management plugin by RedTyger