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I am very new to digital photography and would really appreciate technical feedback and how to make corrections on this one. I feel some of the white areas in this photograph are too white and glare. (Is there are technical term for this?)
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Re: Leaves (1)

There are two terms which cover this, Susan

Overexposure: which technically is caused by an incorrect exposure

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Blown Highlight : which is more [ in my mind] to do with editing.

Unfortunately both terms have come to mean the same nowadays.

Overexposure can be brought back by some of the modern editing programmes, but better to practice with your cameras settings to get the exposure spot on first time.
The 2nd then becomes a matter of choice rather than accident

Hope this makes sense
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Re: Leaves (1)

As an image i like it. As getting the exposure correct it's a little tricky as you have very dark shadows as well very light areas. If you shoot RAW files and then have a go at editing them in Olympus viewer 3 you should be able to adjust the whites and blacks to get a better balance. I take it the sun was reflecting off the leaves, you could of used a reflector to have blocked out some of the light when the photo was taken.

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Re: Leaves (1)

Having looked at the image rather than having blown highlights it is rather low in contrast and no has real whites. The original shot may have had blown highlights which may be recoverable if shot in RAW.

How was the mono image created?
What adjustments have you made?
Can we see the original?

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Re: Leaves (1)

I like high contrast black and white and I like this……...if its what you intended then everything is fine…its an artistic expression after all not a technical illustration.
I totally agree with the Imageryone and Steve….with their technical appraisal.
It could also be described as high-key as a term to describe this sort of shot if you want to describe it as an intended outcome rather than an image with faults.
I think maybe you shot on manual exposure because if you were using an auto mode I would expect the camera to have averaged out the exposure and not blown the highlights?
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Re: Leaves (1)

I see you have an EM5 :-)

Perhaps underexpose slightly (-0.3EV) and you'll lose fewer highlights.

With the shot you've taken, there are too many greys, I'd say, in this final version on our screens. And it is very contrasty. You could use a fill-in flash (small amount, 1/4 or less), or a light (white) reflector (something as simple as wearing a white tee-shirt might have helped) to give a bit more definition in the shadows.

Another technique is to take several shots at different exposures, and, if none of them quite suit your desires, then combine them into an HDR shot ...

I'd go for several shots / exposures, and also - maybe - try using Shading Compensation and / or High Key / Low Key settings (and some of the Art filters).

Maybe also familiarise yourself with the Histogram settings in live view, and the Highlight / Shadow flashing zebra thing when viewing the image on the camera if you've not already done so :-D

Finally, shooting in RAW (or RAW + jpeg) means you can fiddle around with a bit more information later on. I rarely bother with my EM5, as it's more work and the camera usually gets it right !
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Re: Leaves (1)

Thank you everyone, you are all very helpful. This shot was taken with the em5 in auto mode... it's the only way I know how to use it at present! Yesterday I started to learn about histograms and have a long way to go. As I said... very big Learner's Plate on here. I did intend it to be more of an 'arty' feel, rather than a technically correct outcome. I just liked the look of it, but didn't know how to reduce the white blow out.

I think this is the original photograph

http://s62.photobucket.com/user/susa...tml?sort=3&o=0

To adjust this now in an editing program, which adjustments can I play with to tone it down? And thanks again everyone.

Cheers
Sue

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Re: Leaves (1)

I don't have an em5 but I am sure you can try this.

When taking a shot the rear screen shows a preview, you can set this so that it blinks on areas of blown highlights and completely black shadows.

When I take a pic I glance at the preview, if there are blown highlights indicated by the blinkies I use the exposure correction button to turn down the exposure and retake it checking to see that they have gone away on the next preview.

Any area which isn't shown as blown by the blinkies can be tweeked later in software if needed.

I like the simplicity of the shot you posted and the high key effect
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Re: Leaves (1)

Just to show that your highlights are not completely blown I toned down the highlights and upped the shadows in Lightroom, there is plenty of extra detail in both, this allows you to get the contrast and look you want (I actually prefer your high key effect)

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Re: Leaves (1)

Thank you again everyone you are very kind to spend your time giving this helpful feedback. I was actually aiming at the effect I achieved, but without those very blown areas. I will have another go at it.

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Re: Leaves (1)

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs4S07E5NC0R7pVuzBJ0e8Q

http://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoGavin/featured

Hello Susan,

Above are two links to Youtube Channels that may be of some help to you. There are plenty of tutorials on just about everything from composition, camera settings, what all the photo jargon actually means and best of all they both explain things simply. I have and still do learn things from these guys.....

Oh and i still think your image is good.....

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Hi Steve
Thank you for the links and the encouragement. Glad you like the shot.
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