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Re: So much for anti-virus software!

I found an option under "restart options" to "show more notifications" but that hasn't made any difference, when I shut the machine down just now it immediately said "getting Windows ready" and it was several minutes before it actually shut down. By the way I have "fast start" turned off because it caused problems with the video card driver but to be honest, when it's turned on I find that while the machine boots a bit faster it takes longer to shut down so it's of little overall benefit!

My nominally most powerful machine is a Lenovo AIO 700 with an i5 processor but even that takes some time to get started. I do agree though that Win10 has become very much better in the last year or so.

Edit: Just found this article about fast startup mode which also says it can cause problems. I guess you guys with machines that boot up in seconds have this feature turned on but unfortunately I cannot use it. I'm also guessing the option to "update and restart" is only available if you use fast startup because that mode does not do a full shutdown.
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Re: So much for anti-virus software!

My Laptop is the basic entry level HP and it gets regular updates.
I tend not to use it for weeks then if the night sky is forecast to be clear I make sure its all updated and charged before going out. It needs about an hour before it settles down and actually becomes useable. As people on here have confirmed things get a lot better if you have a more powerful system.

I don't do any photo post processing on it at all, its just not powerful enough.
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Re: So much for anti-virus software!

Don't knock it, it does what I want, exept keep up to date hence my earlier posts and suggestions that others with better experiences of windows were with way more powerful machines.

Guess its not fair to compare my HP to my iMac 27" 5K Retina display with dual Intel Core i7 4.2GHz processors, 16GB memory and 512KB Flash storage. That certainly is up to the job of post processing and anything else I throw at it.

Bottom line I guess is these days

you don't get "owt for nowt" regardless of the OS
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I tend not to use it for weeks then if the night sky is forecast to be clear I make sure its all updated and charged before going out. It needs about an hour before it settles down and actually becomes useable.
I have a similar experience with my little Lenovo. It can sit for weeks unused and when next used, it can take up to an hour before the disk usage drops below 100% and it's worth actually trying to use it. I use the machine I'm writing this on almost every day and it rarely slows down significantly. Windows has become so complex with so many variables that I doubt any two machines are the same!
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Re: So much for anti-virus software!

Those basic entry HP's are the pits. Should not be called a computer.

I bought my wife one a couple of years ago, and I am embarassed by its awful performance. Cost of course was one of the main reasons for choosing it.

Hewlett Packard used to be a good brand, but I wont touch one now...........
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Those basic entry HP's are the pits. Should not be called a computer.

I bought my wife one a couple of years ago, and I am embarassed by its awful performance. Cost of course was one of the main reasons for choosing it.

Hewlett Packard used to be a good brand, but I wont touch one now...........
HP's better machines are still very respectable, but the consumer fodder sold in outlets such as PC World is clearly designed down to a price, so you get what you pay for.

Interestingly, other than the Apple Store and some independent specialists it is almost impossible to buy a decent spec computer from a bricks and mortar shop nowadays; and by default even Apple tend to push their lower spec machines from their stores. Buying online is about the only realistic option if you want speed and quality. You don't have to pay that much more either.

I do wonder if this is why so many people complain vociferously about Windows machines? Added to which, consumer fodder tends to be loaded with all sorts of crapware that will slow even the fastest computer to a crawl, which I suppose gives PC World salespeople an opportunity to sell yet more crapware to remove the crapware with.

Windows remains by far the most dominant OS in all types of business, including those where heavyweight processing is needed so if properly implemented it is clearly isn't the case that is doesn't do what it says on the box.


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Guess its not fair to compare my HP to my iMac 27" 5K Retina display with dual Intel Core i7 4.2GHz processors........
Dual i7 CPU's? Is that even possible?

I thought the Intel Xeon was specified for machines with multiple CPU's.
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so you get what you pay for.
Undoubtedly..............

My latest pooter purchase was for a reasonably high spec Dell, refurbished....much better and significantly cheaper than PC Worlds offers..
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Dual i7 CPU's? Is that even possible?

I thought the Intel Xeon was specified for machines with multiple CPU's.

It was late when made the post its actually a 4.2Ghz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, I blame auto correct
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If anyone has an interest in radios, Roberts Radio have an Ebay site for refurbished stock where it's all half the new price.

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I have used that and it is very good value.

I think they have a shop too, but I am not sure where it is. Possibly Hull I think?

Roberts left West Molesey after major flooding many years ago.
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Edit for Otto: I only get the options to Shut Down, Restart, Sign Out, or Sleep. When an update needs installing I get the option to Update and Shut Down but only when an update is pending.
For the first time ever one of my three Win10 machines has offered the option to "update and restart" or "update and shut down", although not to "shut down without updating". But it's a start I suppose!
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