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Old 6th January 2011
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The latest evolution of the Micro Four Thirds compact system camera concept has arrived in the form of the Olympus Pen E-PL2. We find out what the E-PL2 has to tempt us with.

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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

No comments on the new E-PL2?

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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

OK. Some progress but not there yet. The PENs with their lenses and bolt-on accessories will never be pocket cameras. They are either a step up from P&S or must compete for serious stuff with DSLRs, where they remain a step down. When we have a weathersealed pro PEN that can do everything the E-5 can do, or better, with AF just as fast and glass just as extensive but not as expensive, they will win out on weight, size and cost. Until then, one waits....while other companies also explore this form of camera with other innovative ideas.

Well, that's what I think, however unpopular that may be! I'm less impressed by boltons and 'features' than I would be by a camera that does the photographic essentials better than any other. A poor man's Leica M9?
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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

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OK. Some progress but not there yet. The PENs with their lenses and bolt-on accessories will never be pocket cameras. They are either a step up from P&S or must compete for serious stuff with DSLRs, where they remain a step down. When we have a weathersealed pro PEN that can do everything the E-5 can do, or better, with AF just as fast and glass just as extensive but not as expensive, they will win out on weight, size and cost. Until then, one waits....while other companies also explore this form of camera with other innovative ideas.

Well, that's what I think, however unpopular that may be! I'm less impressed by boltons and 'features' than I would be by a camera that does the photographic essentials better than any other. A poor man's Leica M9?
It's true, Micro Four Thirds is not a pocket camera platform, but the sheer convenience of the lower weight and bulk of something like a Pen compared to even a compact DSLR like the E-620, is very compelling.

But yes, it would be nice to integrate more features we have seen on DSLRs into Micro Four Thirds.

But the primary raison d'etre of Micro Four Thirds is to mop up people who fail to move up to a DSLR from a compact or bridge camera, so that will be the focus for now.

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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

I think that this is a good thing but i want to finally see the E-P3, its meant to become a professional body with a built in viewfinder. I really want to get this.
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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

I certainly like the look of it, to my eye it's the best looking Pen offering a and probably the best or equal to the best image quality wise. The new 14-42 sounds like a nice improvement too. I would have to say it quite temping as a lightweight high quality output platform but I tend to agree with Keith that it's not yet at the level where it can replace the al-round capability of the smaller Oly DSLRs.

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But the primary raison d'etre of Micro Four Thirds is to mop up people who fail to move up to a DSLR from a compact or bridge camera, so that will be the focus for now.
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Currently at least there in lies the problem for Olympus in that there are now no low / mid range DSLR bodies for P&S users to move to if they don't like the concept of the Pen.
Until Oly release a Pro level (or close to it) Pen that resembles a DSLR there will be the feeling that Oly are two men short in the defence and walking out on the pitch to face the current league leaders

Having said all that I do like the E-PL2 and may even contemplate putting my E-30 out to grass for one. For the moment however I'm going to sit tight because I suspect the next Pen release could be a whole lot more interesting (hoping so anyway).
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... the primary raison d'etre of Micro Four Thirds is to mop up people who fail to move up to a DSLR from a compact or bridge camera, so that will be the focus for now.

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That's understood, and it has to be a sensible course for Olympus. However, if they are to compete along their usual lines of emphasising quality and optical goodness, then for overall marketing purposes they do need to have a worthy flagship that will win accolades from pro photographers, who will wish to use it as a main camera.

I am wondering whether, even with the advantages of MFT format for lenses, AF speed will prove to be a limiting factor for these smaller form cameras? Moving that heavy glass around.... I note that the new lens with the EPL2 is lighter (but doesn't have ED glass) and that seems to be how they have improved focusing speed. For a long time it has seemed to me that grinding heavy glass to make lenses is a rather old and clunky thing to do. Questions:
- Are there other materials or techniques coming down the track which will dramatically alter this technology as sensors replaced film?
- how are other manufactuers of small form, high quality, interchangeable lens cameras progressing with:
--- focus speed?
--- sensor capabilities?
--- alternative technologies (the Sony transparent mirror etc)?

Lastly, I have gone for smaller, lighter SLRs/DSLRs in the past. But although my new E5 is big and heavy, I am finding that its size is more right for my hands and it is sweet and easy to use - easier than the E520. Whereas our pocket Canon S90 is now so small and sensitive for me that it becomes a problem sometimes... That may be because I am getting older and my fingers more fumbly. But I'm interested in the views of others on these handling questions (IIRC, at least one forum member sold up his DSLR and went to the PEN only to return to the E5).

[[After four weeks of the E5 I picked up my 520+kit lens yesterday and was amazed how light it was LOL but somehow I don't think I am going back to it]].
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I think that this is a good thing but i want to finally see the E-P3, its meant to become a professional body with a built in viewfinder. I really want to get this.
Please check your private mail on this forum as soon as possible.

Not happy with you plugging your site the way you are on here.

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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

I chose the E-P2 after using a small digital camera. I have an SLR, and still keep film in it for when needed, but when looking for a good digital camera, I didn't want the size, weight or noise of a DSLR, but I wanted better quality pictures than I could get from the P&S.

I love the E-P2 for being small and light, especially with the 17mm lens. It lives in a lined pocket in my shoulder bag, so I always have it with me.

I feel like the E-P2 was marketed for me - an amateur wanting better than P&S but with the pocketability of the P&S. I can see that it would feel like a step down for those using professional or semi-professional DSLRs, and perhaps for them it provides a camera without the features and quality, but that might be on hand at times to make the difference between getting a picture or not.
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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

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I have an accessory question which I cannot find the answer to on Olympus web-site. Will the PENPal only work on the E-PL2,it only states it works on the accessory port 2. I will be peeved if thats the case only recently purchasing the E-PL1 and I like the idea of transfering images to smart phones & to say something like an ipad.

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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

Oh dear. Oly are moving further and further away from the original Pen design concepts I love so much in my E-P1. No doubt this is very good - but it just looks like many other compacts to me and probably performs around the same level as the best of them.

A trick is being missed I think. Change for change's sake is never justified IMO

What is the point of this - other than to sell more cameras to the same customer base
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I have an accessory question which I cannot find the answer to on Olympus web-site. Will the PENPal only work on the E-PL2,it only states it works on the accessory port 2. I will be peeved if thats the case only recently purchasing the E-PL1 and I like the idea of transfering images to smart phones & to say something like an ipad.

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No, Pen Pal only works on the Mark 2 Accessory port. The Accessory Port was originally designed primarily for the VF-2 finder and as a bonus audio channels were included for the SEMA-1 external stereo microphone adapter. But Olympus later saw greater potential for the port and so developed Accessory Port 2. It's really new and is not even featured in the new XZ-1 compact, which makes do with the Mark 1 Accessory Port.

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Oh dear. Oly are moving further and further away from the original Pen design concepts I love so much in my E-P1. No doubt this is very good - but it just looks like many other compacts to me and probably performs around the same level as the best of them.

A trick is being missed I think. Change for change's sake is never justified IMO

What is the point of this - other than to sell more cameras to the same customer base
I must, politely!, say that I don't understand your point at all. Why is the E-PL2 moving away from the original design concept?

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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

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Oh dear. Oly are moving further and further away from the original Pen design concepts I love so much in my E-P1. No doubt this is very good - but it just looks like many other compacts to me and probably performs around the same level as the best of them.

A trick is being missed I think. Change for change's sake is never justified IMO

What is the point of this - other than to sell more cameras to the same customer base
I tend to think that from a concept point of view this E-PL2 is a more attractive design than the original 'retro' E-P1 and 2.... just my opinion

Further, I think that for anyone that hasn't picked up an E-PL1 (or the previous EP-1 & 2) this has to be quite a tempting package.
The basic sensor & image engine is as the E-PL1 (nothing wrong there IMHO) but it has some useful advancements in the user interface, shutter speed, flash sync speed, ISO range, build construction (all metal) and the new 14-42 kit lens looks to be improvement too.
All sounds good to me, which trick has been missed
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Re: Olympus announces the E-PL2

Ian - Accessory port 2

This is yet another reason why Im falling out of love with Olympus first they ditch consumer E series cameras which forces you to pay for an adaptor to use existing lenses on the Pen, then when you buy a Pen the accessories are not backward compatable it leaves me feeling Olympus only cares about current sales frankly not impressed.
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