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FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

Here: https://uk.webuy.com/product.php?sku...2#.WgN7GFu0PIV

Not sure of provenance at all but (if I'm reading their Ts & Cs correctly) they seem to accept returns up to 14 days without quibble.

This lens is said to be stellar (as well as huge), and seems to command very much higher prices mormally.
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

The 35 to 100 is more than stellar - it's a brilliant bit of kit and the price is very good. I rarely use mine, but I'll not get rid of it.

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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

Superb lens but I hardly ever use mine these days.

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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

Been on sale there for quite a while now.
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

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Been on sale there for quite a while now.
Hardly surprising - no photos of the lens, no information on its condition, not a known and reputable seller of used photo gear. It might be a great bargain, but it's a rare and specialist lens. They'd be better sending it to Ffordes as a commission sale.
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

I actually saw this lens in their shop recently however without an adapter I couldn't test it. Seemed in visibly good condition, but just too big for my liking...

As for shopping from them, I've had some experience & their online orders are better than in-store as they'll give you 14-days to return (and refund) if it doesn't match advert. If you buy in store then they'll only issue you with store credit and not a refund.

What I did find surprising and reassuring is that they issue a 24month warranty on everything except consumables - see their t&cs for specifics: https://uk.webuy.com/terms/ - pretty reasonable for a lens well outside manufacturer warranty.

I've bought and still a own some goods from them and haven't had any issues (hp laptop, Panasonic tz80, ipad)

If it was a 300mm f4 pro, then I wouldn't have an issue buying from them, knowing I could send it back if it wasn't optically sound
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

Just by pure chance found this hands on review:

https://youtu.be/m9TAxwS52yw
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

I remember 10 years ago, I was pondering selling a kidney to get this lens. I had it in my shopping cart at one of the retailers for a year.

Almost makes me want to buy this for nostalgia's sake, but I know for sure I have no use for it. By today's standards it is huge and heavy, and small, excellent prime lenses for m4/3 make it redundant.
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

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Almost makes me want to buy this for nostalgia's sake, but I know for sure I have no use for it. By today's standards it is huge and heavy, and small, excellent prime lenses for m4/3 make it redundant.
Are the m4/3 lenses that good?

I have a 35-100 f2 and the quality is simply stunning. Together with the 14-35 F2, a reviewer referred to them as "a bag of primes".

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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

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Are the m4/3 lenses that good?

I have a 35-100 f2 and the quality is simply stunning. Together with the 14-35 F2, a reviewer referred to them as "a bag of primes".

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I guess nearest comparable is 40-150 f/2.8. I wonder if there are any head to head comparisons?
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

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Are the m4/3 lenses that good?

I have a 35-100 f2 and the quality is simply stunning. Together with the 14-35 F2, a reviewer referred to them as "a bag of primes".

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f/2.0 simply isn't as impressive as it was 10 years ago. Back then most primes at f/1.4 were pretty crappy. But now we have super sharp f/1.2 lenses, and we have an excellent range of f/1.8 primes that deliver fantastic results - and not just for m4/3, but across several formats.

Maybe this lens does deliver stunning IQ at f/2.0, but by picking the 4/3" format I have already foregone maximum image quality for the sake of convenience.

Which is why this lens finds itself in a sort of no man's land. A gigantic, heavy lens in a system that has small size and convenience as its main advantage. This fact is now reflected in its price.
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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

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I remember 10 years ago, I was pondering selling a kidney to get this lens. I had it in my shopping cart at one of the retailers for a year.

Almost makes me want to buy this for nostalgia's sake, but I know for sure I have no use for it. By today's standards it is huge and heavy, and small, excellent prime lenses for m4/3 make it redundant.
I disagree. I only use it rarely these days but it came into its own this week. Someone asked me to shoot some walking football, which happens indoors at the local leisure centre. From previous experience I know the light there is difficult, and I wanted a lens that would hoover up as many photons as it could lay its hands on. 35-100 is also a pretty good focal length range for the task, so despite being big and heavy (by m43 standards) it was pretty much the ideal lens for the job.

Horses for courses, as always.

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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

I have to say Edman above is spot on in my opinion. A few years ago I went to buy a lens from a Pro that was moving from 4/3rds. I couldn't believe the lenses he was selling (all too expensive for me at the time though). He had the 35-100 F2, 300 F2.8, 50-250 F2.8 (I think, could be wrong), 14-35 F2.....

Even then I was trying to justify the supposed size advantage of my E-3 kit and the 35-100 I could only see really using in a studio.

Now everything's moved on and there are equivalent and more versatile Micro 4/3rds lenses and much improved cameras.

I actually ended up buying a 150 F2 and 1.4x and 2.0x converters which made a very versatile telephoto outfit. Amazingly that lens didn't noticeably suffer a quality loss using the teleconverters.

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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

Again, I disagree. There are NOT equivalent lenses in the m43 line-up.

Taking the 35-100 as an example, there are lenses which are a bit similar - for example the 40-150 f/2.8. It is fantastic for many jobs, but you lose a stop which can sometimes make a big difference. The longest prime is the 75mm f/1.8, which is a lovely lens but not much faster and a lot less versatile than a zoom. Quite chunky but not very heavy, perfect for some jobs, but not for others.

I think the apotheosis of m43 is the 45mm f/1.8. A superb performer, tiny, weighs next to nothing - and all for an attractive price. But of restricted use for some applications.

Why can't we just be grateful that we have such a variety of kit available to meet our widely differing needs, instead of being critical that some stuff doesn't fit our preconceived ideas of what the system "should" be about? If you want long and fast, it is never going to be small and light. It is going to be smaller and lighter than the equivalent for larger sensors, and I for one am very glad of that.

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Re: FT 35-100 f/2.0 565

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Maybe this lens does deliver stunning IQ at f/2.0, but by picking the 4/3" format I have already foregone maximum image quality for the sake of convenience.

Which is why this lens finds itself in a sort of no man's land. A gigantic, heavy lens in a system that has small size and convenience as its main advantage.

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So is there something like a full frame 70-300 f/2 or an APSC 50-150 f/2 of equivalent quality and no heavier?

If so then your point is sound. But if the Oly 35-100 - large and heavy though it is by MFT standards - is still smaller and lighter than Canikon equivalents, then perhaps it does have a place.

(Incidentally, "For sale and wanted" is a funny place for the discussion this has become.)
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