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Old 1st February 2012
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I am interested in your thoughts.

I have recently joined the local Camera club, this month competition is mono. I have not spend a lot of time studying mono so I am interested in your thoughts on this image.



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Hi Adam,
I will say, that I almost instantly reckognized this view - having taken a photo or two from almost exactly the same location:

I converted mine into B&W for better comparison Okay, this should be enough bragging - of having once in my life made a visit to Cambridge ...

There is one thing which I don't like in your picture and that is the very prominent shoe of the girl. It just jumps at me and distracts me from the main image. Maybe you got an other one, where this is not so visible?!

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How funny is that!

Your focus is nice!

I think it was her walking style. It is the same in the other frame.

I rejected this as the top of the lamp post is missing



My other idea was this one.

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I have recently joined the local Camera club, this month competition is mono. I have not spend a lot of time studying mono so I am interested in your thoughts on this image.



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Hi Adam, there are some nice touches in this picture which helps bind all the elements together. Firstly, the line of lamp posts echoes the lines of trees. Then there is the matter of the worn paint (?) on the posts, making virtually every one appear to be black and white striped - this is important, because it connects with the foreground figure who has a light shoe and light hair, with black clothing in between. The lady then connects with the two figures, also in dark clothing, near the opposite end of the path. For me, these repetitions and connections make an interesting geometry which holds my interest. In my opinion the light (almost white) shoe is vital and quite fortuitous. You were right to keep the tops of the lamps and in any case this version is by far the best. I like this picture.

The shot of the bench does little for me, I'm afraid the river leads my eye straight out of the picture, although there is an interesting angle on the bench.
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I agree with John the first is definitely the best.
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I too like the first image, however - are you permitted to alter it in any way? If so, I'd perhaps remove the other people in the shot such that only the lady remains thus focussing the eye to her and where she is going?

Also - I'd use Lightroom to pull out more detail and especially enhance the contrast.
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Re: Your thoughts welcome

I prefer your original image posted and disagree with Falk because from the angle of view if the bottom of her shoe was not visible and the position of the foot was different she would look static and standing still and you would lose the feeling of her moving through the image.

PS if it bothers you (and it does not me) it is very easy to darken the white of the shoe a little.
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Thank you! Mine was shot with the cheapest lense there is (ZD17,5-45) in the whole Oly-portfolio

John describes how well you did with your first picture and why - and I guess he could sell me a worn out car within minutes and as others have agreed, I will say: don't give my thought to much of a thought. From the three candidates I also like the first one best anyways ...

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Thank you! Mine was shot with the cheapest lense there is (ZD17,5-45) in the whole Oly-portfolio

John describes how well you did with your first picture and why - and I guess he could sell me a worn out car within minutes and as others have agreed, I will say: don't give my thought to much of a thought. From the three candidates I also like the first one best anyways ...

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Haha! Neither of us is right or wrong, it is just too seperate opinions and it's up to Adam to choose which he agrees with!
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Thank you all for you input.

The "shoe" is interesting If I was to "set up" the image it is not something I would do. But some how, for me it works and give me a sense of movement.

I would of preferred a wider depth of field for me it is to shallow. The opportunity was to brief.

The contrast and brightness puzzles me I have tried it with all sort of settings and I have no idea what works best
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What is it about this that puzzles you Adam...? What are you trying to do with the contrast/brightness settings?
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The contrast and brightness puzzles me I have tried it with all sort of settings and I have no idea what works best
My own taste would be to have it more moodier and darker.

For your consideration doing gradient burn from each side to the edge of the path leaving the subject and path the brightest part of the image.

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I knew we could rely on Paul to do a good job!
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Re: Your thoughts welcome

My first thought was being disappointed in the too-bright greys on the trees, then Falk posted his which was nicer for me, tonally.
Then Paul darkened them down (smidgen too much?) to a nicer overall picture.
So, there you go : Lots of good input in this thread!
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My own taste would be to have it more moodier and darker.

For your consideration doing gradient burn from each side to the edge of the path leaving the subject and path the brightest part of the image.

Thanks for that!

Having not work with mono much I we reluctant go more extreme. I will experiment further before I make my final decision.
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