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Mac or PC?

BEFORE anyone kicks off, I've NOT started this thread to debate the pros and cons of either system. I've done it because there are many of us, myself included, who are genuinely interested to find the optimum specification of either system for photo editing.

Although I'm an ex- IT Manager, my knowledge is by no means current, so I'm throwing it open to others who are current in the relevant system to give hints, tips, and specifications for both systems.

I'll repeat, I do NOT want to start a slanging match between the two systems - they both have their merits and demerits.
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Re: Mac or PC?

Never used a Mac, but you will find you are paying for the name. If you want bang for bucks then it has to be a Pc. Especialy as they come with w7 rather than the pain that was vista. But as i said i have never used a Mac.

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Re: Mac or PC?

Steve, thanks for your input but I'm NOT asking which system is best. Just what's the best spec on each system.
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Re: Mac or PC?

The thing is, it is so difficult NOT to make this a Mac vs PC debate, as that IS what this thread actually is!!

Steve - You say...

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Never used a Mac... But as i said i have never used a Mac.

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...but you will find you are paying for the name. If you want bang for bucks then it has to be a Pc.Steve
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Re: Mac or PC?

Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. Or perhaps I should have started two threads - what is the optimum spec for a PC for photo editing, and what is the optimum spec for a Mac for photo editing.
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Re: Mac or PC?

For a Mac see www.macperformanceguide.com (if you would like an enthusiast/professional solution).

I've used Photoshop Elements on both the following with satisfactory results.
PC - homebuild
3mhz Intel core 2 duo processor
4gb memory (3.25 gb actual)
320gb WD hard disk
Dell U2410 monitor.

Mac - Mini
2.53mhz Intel core 2 duo processor
4gb memory
320gb hard disk
Dell U2410 monitor.

I don't favour the modern Mac monitors or Imac as I can't calibrate the glossy screen satisfactorily and find the glare troublesome.

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Re: Mac or PC?

They are both the same... the optimum spec for a Pc is the same these days as for a Mac.
Simple as. They will both be able to run the same procesors and memory.
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Re: Mac or PC?

Stephen,
I think the glib answer to your question is - whatever you are prepared to pay. I'm a current IT hardware service manager. Personally I've a standard tower PC with an AMD Athlon II X2 240 processor with 2GB of RAM and a 250GB primary, 320GB secondary and 80GB USB drive. I run Win7 64 bit. I have Photoshop CS3 and Bridge. It runs fine unless I open too many applications whilst running Bridge when my lack of RAM starts to have an effect. Ideally I'd like 4GB of RAM but until I really need it I'll work with what I've got.
22 years ago I had a Mac Classic and I thought it was great - I worked then in a company that did a lot of desktop publishing and it was really useful in that environment.
These days with finance critical I'd always buy a PC as it is cheaper if you are either starting from scratch on a limited budget or are happy to keep your existing display, keyboard and mouse. If you are and you look at PCWorld for base units only you can get some real bargains - particularly their bin ends. These normally retail at prices (circa 220-300) I couldn't even buy the constituent parts for - never mind the fact that the operating system is thrown in. For instance http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-g52...23370-pdt.html
But in the end it is personal preference and finance that normally determines what you buy.
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Re: Mac or PC?

I've not used a PC specifically for photo editing, so I am not qualified and therefore can't really comment on that. However, I found that the Macbook was fine (when I had it) for everything I did with it, including photo editing... but after 4 yrs with that initial Mac machine I recently upgraded to a Macbook Pro, and it is perfect. It flies.

Spec is 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 8GB DDR3.
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Re: Mac or PC?

I've got a refurb Acer machine (PC) that I bought about two years ago for peanuts (about 350).

AMD phenom II X64 2.5 Ghz
4gb RAM
Vista 64 Bit (Yup I still hate vista but it was the cheapest option by far at the time and I don't hate it that much its making me format and reinstall.)
Decent graphics card (for gaming)
Two sata hard drives.

I don't find myself waiting to any extent that bothers me, I think any half decent PC will cut the mustard unless you are doing some seriosly humumgus files or big rendsers etc.

I would buy on price unless cutting edge performance is the must have.

I have no experience re mac.
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Re: Mac or PC?

while I was positng other's have, and make the point I was making better.

It's all about price. There are some cracking deals on refurb machines if you hunt around, I used to build PC's for pocket money, now I can get a refurb with licensed windows cheaper than buying the parts with a trade account
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Re: Mac or PC?

A real world example

I did a pano earlier, the file is 16099x2857 px which is 77 Mb on disk as a Tiff file.

Gimp opens it in 5-6 seconds if the programme is already running.

A 7.3 mb 3557x2803 jpg opens in less than 2 seconds
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Re: Mac or PC?

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A real world example

I did a pano earlier, the file is 16099x2857 px which is 77 Mb on disk as a Tiff file.

Gimp opens it in 5-6 seconds if the programme is already running.

A 7.3 mb 3557x2803 jpg opens in less than 2 seconds
CS3 opened one of my 130Mb film scans in 7 seconds and a OOC jpg faster than I could time.

I guess I don't need to upgrade my 6 year old PowerPC Mac running only 2 gigs of RAM.
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Re: Mac or PC?

Really folks... this thread, though made with the best intent, is just not going to go anywhere except around in circles.

People who love Win and PC's, love Win and PC's. Those who love OSx and Mac, love OSx and Mac.

That's the way it is.
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Re: Mac or PC?

David,
I appreciate the point you make but the Macbook pro starts at approx 1k as does the basic iMac. Taking into account that generally Mac software is more costly ( eg PC MS Office 79.95, Mac MS Office 109.99) you can get a PC of similar spec cheaper and run it cheaper.
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