Olympus UK E-System User Group
Olympus UK E-System User Group

Join our unique resource for Olympus Four Thirds E-System DSLR and Pen and OM-D Micro Four Thirds photographers. Show your images via our free e-group photo gallery. Please read the e-group.uk.net forum terms and conditions before posting for the first time. Above all, welcome!


Go Back   Olympus UK E-System User Group > Show your photos > Foto Fair

Foto Fair Post your photos for friendly, non-critical feedback. This is the place to show pictures if you aren't yet ready for full-blooded critique, or simply want to share an interesting picture with other e-group visitors.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13th March 2010
PeterBirder's Avatar
PeterBirder PeterBirder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BRAINTREE ESSEX
Posts: 5,950
Thanks: 1,760
Thanked 1,024 Times in 854 Posts
Likes: 1,922
Liked 797 Times in 466 Posts
E-600 Does Spring

Managed to get some spring shots with the E-600 today. All ooc jpegs with minor levels adjustment and cropping of the lamb shots. As others have commented the ooc jpegs are excellent and gave better results than my attempts at raw conversion. The flip out screen was a life saver (literally) for the snowdrops as "chelsea tractors" were roaring down the lane on their way to shooting parties.










Regards
__________________
Peter

she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

E-M10 MK II, E-M5, E-PL1, E-PM2, mZ 12-50, mZ 14-42mm EZ, mZ 17mm f 1.8, mZ 25mm f1.8, mZ 45mm f1.8, mZ 75-300mm II.
OM1n, OM 50mm f1.8.
Oly Viewer3, Dxo Pro 11. FastStone.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14th March 2010
shenstone's Avatar
shenstone shenstone is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 3,377
Thanks: 166
Thanked 318 Times in 242 Posts
Likes: 411
Liked 507 Times in 281 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Hi Peter

Nice pictures of the snowdrops and I like the last one in terms of subject, but they seem a little light to me, especially the last.

It may be my monitor as I had to reinstall all the videodrivers yesterday (I'll post on that saga sometime)

As a "Chelsea Tractor Driver" [only mine gets muddy working for a living sometimes and I even got stuck last weekend as 4wD is bust and going to cost me about 1,000 to fix it] I can only apologise for my driving kindred.

Regards
Andy
__________________
My Kit (OK I'm a hoarder...)
4/3 E500, E510, E30 + 35macro, 50macro, 7-14, 11-22, 14-45 (x2), 14-54, 40-150 (both types), 50-200, 70-300, 50-500,
m 4/3 EM1MkII + 60 macro, 12-100 Pro
FL20, FL36 x2 , FL50, cactus slaves etc.
The Boss (Mrs Shenstone) E620, EM10-II, 14-41Ez, 40-150R, 9 cap and whatever she can nick from me when she wants it

My places
http://www.shenstone.me.uk
http://landroverkaty.blogspot.com/
https://vimeo.com/shenstone
http://cardiffnaturalists.org.uk/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 14th March 2010
PeterD PeterD is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 2,248
Thanks: 44
Thanked 88 Times in 73 Posts
Likes: 14
Liked 37 Times in 12 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Hi Peter

Great subjects to celebrate spring. My favourites are #2 and #3. I share Andy's comment though that I suspect you have over-exposed a tad. Did you use spot exposure?
__________________
Best Regards

PeterD

www.imageinuk.com/
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 14th March 2010
stevednp3's Avatar
stevednp3 stevednp3 is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Wales
Posts: 1,787
Thanks: 76
Thanked 44 Times in 38 Posts
Likes: 2
Liked 76 Times in 23 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Love the 3rd Image - well done
__________________
E-M10 Mk2 - 14-42mm EZ - 40-150mm ED - Falcon 8mm Fisheye - FL-36R

Wedding Photography Wales | Commercial Photography | Party Photographer Cardiff | Cheap Business Cards | Photoshop Training Cardiff
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 14th March 2010
BobS BobS is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Isle of Purbeck, Dorset
Posts: 1,261
Thanks: 50
Thanked 51 Times in 47 Posts
Likes: 52
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

I love # 3 "Come to mummy". Or is the lamb going to head-but its mother?

Bob
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 14th March 2010
PeterBirder's Avatar
PeterBirder PeterBirder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BRAINTREE ESSEX
Posts: 5,950
Thanks: 1,760
Thanked 1,024 Times in 854 Posts
Likes: 1,922
Liked 797 Times in 466 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Thanks for your helpful comments all. I'm still trying to get to grips with the E-600, some way to go yet.
Andy
It may be my monitor that needs attention. Also as you can see from the shadows these were shot a little too much towards the sun. I think there's a difference in driving ability/manners between 4x4 drivers who need them and those who use them as fashion accessories. Sorry to hear about your expensive mechanical problem.
PeterD
I used centre weighted metering and +1/3 EV as some have recomended for the 620/600.
BobS
The poor lamb was looking for its mummy and No95 wasn't her.

Again thanks for the comments.

Regards
__________________
Peter

she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

E-M10 MK II, E-M5, E-PL1, E-PM2, mZ 12-50, mZ 14-42mm EZ, mZ 17mm f 1.8, mZ 25mm f1.8, mZ 45mm f1.8, mZ 75-300mm II.
OM1n, OM 50mm f1.8.
Oly Viewer3, Dxo Pro 11. FastStone.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 14th March 2010
PeterD PeterD is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 2,248
Thanks: 44
Thanked 88 Times in 73 Posts
Likes: 14
Liked 37 Times in 12 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Quote:
Originally Posted by PETERBIRDER View Post
Thanks for your helpful comments all. I'm still trying to get to grips with the E-600, some way to go yet.
Andy
It may be my monitor that needs attention. Also as you can see from the shadows these were shot a little too much towards the sun. I think there's a difference in driving ability/manners between 4x4 drivers who need them and those who use them as fashion accessories. Sorry to hear about your expensive mechanical problem.
PeterD
I used centre weighted metering and +1/3 EV as some have recomended for the 620/600.
BobS
The poor lamb was looking for its mummy and No95 wasn't her.

Again thanks for the comments.

Regards
Thanks for the info Peter. I am more than surprised by your exposing +1/3. I do not have a E620 but overexposing is not a good idea. I underexpose by 1/3 normally but change this depending on the scene. When developing, or even after a shot with the camera, the tones must have been biased well towards the top end. Risk of loss of high tone information is great. The Kestrel shots I took were deliberately underexposed by -1 3/7 (spot reading on Kestrel). If I had not done this the sky would have been almost white with no detail. There is no hard and fast rule. You choose the exposure to suit the occasion.
__________________
Best Regards

PeterD

www.imageinuk.com/

Last edited by PeterD; 14th March 2010 at 06:47 PM. Reason: clarification
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 14th March 2010
shenstone's Avatar
shenstone shenstone is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 3,377
Thanks: 166
Thanked 318 Times in 242 Posts
Likes: 411
Liked 507 Times in 281 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Quote:
Originally Posted by PETERBIRDER View Post
I used centre weighted metering and +1/3 EV as some have recomended for the 620/600.
Oooo No

I use -1/3 much more than I ever use + 1/3 on my E-30 and it's teh same sensor

+ values tend to be for very light subjects such as snow which your camera will try and darken to a neutral 15% grey. With general views with a lot of dark parts such as some ot these scenes your camera will be tenting to lighten them anyway

You can't take a "camera" view of that setting it's per picture and you need to think of what it's trying to acheive and decide whether to compensate or not

Regards
Andy
__________________
My Kit (OK I'm a hoarder...)
4/3 E500, E510, E30 + 35macro, 50macro, 7-14, 11-22, 14-45 (x2), 14-54, 40-150 (both types), 50-200, 70-300, 50-500,
m 4/3 EM1MkII + 60 macro, 12-100 Pro
FL20, FL36 x2 , FL50, cactus slaves etc.
The Boss (Mrs Shenstone) E620, EM10-II, 14-41Ez, 40-150R, 9 cap and whatever she can nick from me when she wants it

My places
http://www.shenstone.me.uk
http://landroverkaty.blogspot.com/
https://vimeo.com/shenstone
http://cardiffnaturalists.org.uk/
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 14th March 2010
PeterBirder's Avatar
PeterBirder PeterBirder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BRAINTREE ESSEX
Posts: 5,950
Thanks: 1,760
Thanked 1,024 Times in 854 Posts
Likes: 1,922
Liked 797 Times in 466 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Thanks again PeterD and Andy.
I tend to use -1/3 EV a lot with my E510 with good results but got carried away with recommendations on Biofos and in thread http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6011. All part of the learning process, will get better with practice and all the good advice from you guys.

Thanks
__________________
Peter

she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

E-M10 MK II, E-M5, E-PL1, E-PM2, mZ 12-50, mZ 14-42mm EZ, mZ 17mm f 1.8, mZ 25mm f1.8, mZ 45mm f1.8, mZ 75-300mm II.
OM1n, OM 50mm f1.8.
Oly Viewer3, Dxo Pro 11. FastStone.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 14th March 2010
cinders's Avatar
cinders cinders is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 882
Thanks: 138
Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts
Likes: 296
Liked 47 Times in 16 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

I too have used minus 1/3 as a standard for almost all my Oly cameras, from compacts upwards, and only change this when circumstances seem to need - eg in the recent snow.
Glad to know I'm not the only one....
__________________
Cindy

Cameras: EM1 MK2 and Mk1, E-620, E-410, Om4Ti
Lenses: 12-60, 50-200, Panny 100-400, 9-18, ZD 50mm, 14-54 Mk1, 70-300, 40-150, 14-42, OM 50mm F3.5 macro
Also: EC14, EX25, FS35, Vanguard tripod, and far too many bags!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The air of heaven is that which flows between a horse's ears...."
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 15th March 2010
Zuiko's Avatar
Zuiko Zuiko is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dunmow, Essex
Posts: 22,133
Thanks: 1,987
Thanked 3,164 Times in 2,472 Posts
Likes: 3,423
Liked 4,474 Times in 2,125 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Hi Pete. For a one-off shot you may not get the chance, but when taking a series it's worth checking the histogram and adjusting the exposure compensation accordingly. Generally aim to expose to the right of the histogram, i.e. try to get the curve of the histogram as near to the right edge of the scale as possible without clipping it. That will ensure that you maximise the dynamic range but that you don't lose detail in the highlights. You can then make minor adjustments in levels to suit during pp. There are exceptions, of course, depending on the subject, it's tonal range and the light - but it's a good starting point. If unsure, err a little towards under rather than over exposure and with static subjects don't be afraid to bracket.
__________________
John

"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 15th March 2010
PeterBirder's Avatar
PeterBirder PeterBirder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BRAINTREE ESSEX
Posts: 5,950
Thanks: 1,760
Thanked 1,024 Times in 854 Posts
Likes: 1,922
Liked 797 Times in 466 Posts
Re: E-600 Does Spring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zuiko View Post
Hi Pete. For a one-off shot you may not get the chance, but when taking a series it's worth checking the histogram and adjusting the exposure compensation accordingly. Generally aim to expose to the right of the histogram, i.e. try to get the curve of the histogram as near to the right edge of the scale as possible without clipping it. That will ensure that you maximise the dynamic range but that you don't lose detail in the highlights. You can then make minor adjustments in levels to suit during pp. There are exceptions, of course, depending on the subject, it's tonal range and the light - but it's a good starting point. If unsure, err a little towards under rather than over exposure and with static subjects don't be afraid to bracket.
Hi John
Thanks for that. I did rather spot an opportunity,park the car and grab the shots for these. I think it comes from my birding background where you tend to spot a bird and get the bins/scope on it ASAP and commit an amalgamation what you see to memory. I need to learn to slow down a bit and think more of camera settings and composition to get a better shot that's worth keeping.

Regards
__________________
Peter

she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

E-M10 MK II, E-M5, E-PL1, E-PM2, mZ 12-50, mZ 14-42mm EZ, mZ 17mm f 1.8, mZ 25mm f1.8, mZ 45mm f1.8, mZ 75-300mm II.
OM1n, OM 50mm f1.8.
Oly Viewer3, Dxo Pro 11. FastStone.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
It's spring at last. edmund473 Foto Fair 4 15th March 2010 12:57 AM
Spring is on it's way... tlove Foto Fair 2 1st February 2010 08:23 PM
Spring in the air? Makonde Foto Fair 7 1st March 2009 10:47 AM
Spring is on its way ewan Foto Fair 11 12th February 2008 08:03 PM
Spring andym Foto Fair 4 10th February 2008 12:58 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:09 PM.


The Write Technology Ltd, 2007-2019, All rights reservedAd Management plugin by RedTyger