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It's all Ulfric's fault!

In a recent thread, where I was debating the merits of the E-M5 (kindly loaned to me for a day by Paul/Smartwombat), Ulfric made this suggestion:-

"I'm thinking a cheapo e-P2 would suit you fine as a stop-gap since you already have the important bit : VF-2."

At the time I dismissed it on the grounds that I already had an E-PL1 as a stop gap and I didn't want to commit any precious funds that are earmarked for an eventual OM-D. But it got me thinking, an E-P2 could solve the handling issues I have with the E-PL1 buttons; basically it's not that different in layout to an E-P3, minus the touch screen and optional larger grip. A quick look on Ebay confirmed that that E-P2's don't sell for a fortune these days and I put in a tentative bid for one currently listed.

My bid won and I have an E-P2 plus 17mm pancake on its way for 225. I'll keep an open mind on the lens, it might be useful to keep as a compact alternative to my 14-45mm but if I sell it on with my E-PL1 it should knock a large hole in what I've just paid.

So Ulfric, it's all your fault, but thank you anyway!
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

Nice one John

Damn you Ulfric
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

John I know someone who would probably be interested in your 17mm if you choose to let it go.
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John I know someone who would probably be interested in your 17mm if you choose to let it go.
Thanks Phil, I'll try it before I decide and will let you know.
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

So you've not had the 17mm before?

(So nice to have my own thread)
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So you've not had the 17mm before?

(So nice to have my own thread)
No, never used one. It's often critisized for mediocre performance (compared to what is commonly expected of a modern prime) but many people still love it. I prefer to keep an open mind and welcome the chance to try one.
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

It's not a bad lens - what Oly lens is? You will get some good results out of it, that I know.
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

These give you an idea of focal length and resistance to flare, which I find outstanding.




Good for street and touristy stuff.








I think this is a 100% crop, not even the centre ;
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

Thanks Ulfric, nothing wrong with those pictures! A good point about resistance to flare - even the best resolution lens is useless outdoors if it flares at the slightest opportunity. It's easy to forget that overall optical quality relies on far more than resolving power alone. 35mm equivalent (OK, this is 34mm) has long been one of my favourite focal lengths.
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

This was taken with the 17mm on an E-P2.

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This was taken with the 17mm on an E-P2.

Another good shot with the 17mm, but where is it? Part of the Falkirk Wheel?
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Got it in one!
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

Itchy eBay fingers John, I suffer from the same thing... And does that mean that the little one is in for a new camera?!

Hope that you enjoy the purchase
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Re: It's all Ulfric's fault!

John,

EP-1, VF1 and 17mm is my go everywhere pocket camera.

Best pocket camera ever.

I shoot RAW and have made an LR4 preset which corrects distortion and CA in one click.

EP-2 and VF2 would be even better although I guess you would need to take the VF2 off for the pocket.

If you start to think you need a zoom, remember Robert Frank shot The Americans using a 35mm lens.....
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Itchy eBay fingers John, I suffer from the same thing... And does that mean that the little one is in for a new camera?!

Hope that you enjoy the purchase
Hehe, Alex - Noooooooo! Purchases these days have pretty much got to be balanced by sales of existing kit. If I decide to keep the E-P2 then the E-PL1 will have to go. If I decide to keep the 17mm that could be a problem, although I've just raised 50 from sale of non-photography related bits and pieces on ebay and have more to go - anyone interested in a Saunders Jet-Packer one-man backpacking tent from the 1980's? Or ice axe and crampons?
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