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Old 5th November 2008
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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Don't feel guilty, Peter! You was quite legitimately making a fair and honest comment. We may not all agree with you, of course, but open, respectful and informed debate prevails on this forum (and FTU) more than on any other site I have sampled. We should celebrate and cherish this, not apologise for it! And I value your views as much as any others!
Thanks John. I am glad to have had the opportunity to read the specs in some detail and have posted my views on the other E30 thread.

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http://www.imaginginfo.com/web/online/News/Olympus-Releases-New-E-30-DSLR-/3$4410

PTN here is the US has just posted this article on the New Olympus E30. Enjoy!

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

I'm sure many will have seen this, the side by side comparisons are interesting

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0811/08...0_hands_on.asp
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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I'm sure many will have seen this, the side by side comparisons are interesting

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0811/08...0_hands_on.asp
Very interesting, particularly this description of the Pitch and Roll function!

"On the more practical side of things is the ability to automatically correct for both pitch and roll, meaning perspective correction for converging verticals as well as simply straightening horizons."

When I read the specs I took it to mean it was an electronic aid to keeping the camera straight, a sort of high-tech spirit level. I didn't realise it would correct perspective! If it does, that's far from being a minor new feature.
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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Very interesting, particularly this description of the Pitch and Roll function!

"On the more practical side of things is the ability to automatically correct for both pitch and roll, meaning perspective correction for converging verticals as well as simply straightening horizons."

When I read the specs I took it to me it was an electronic aid to keeping the camera straight, a sort of high-tech spirit level. I didn't realise it would correct perspective! If it does, that's far from being a minor new feature.
Whoops - if thats confirmed it has suddenly become a "must have"

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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Very interesting, particularly this description of the Pitch and Roll function!

"On the more practical side of things is the ability to automatically correct for both pitch and roll, meaning perspective correction for converging verticals as well as simply straightening horizons."

When I read the specs I took it to mean it was an electronic aid to keeping the camera straight, a sort of high-tech spirit level. I didn't realise it would correct perspective! If it does, that's far from being a minor new feature.
I think that's all it is:

According to Olympus's website:

"Level Gauge
Detection 2-axes
Display Rear LCD monitor, viewfinder, control panel"

(http://www.olympus.co.uk/consumer/ds...e-30_20269.htm )

and from www.fourthirds-user.com:

"Camera orientation sensor

"An unexpected feature of the E-30 is its dedicated three dimensional orientation sensor. Entirely separate from the accelerometers that serve the E-30's integrated moving sensor image stabiliser, the Digital Level Sensor, as Olympus calls it, not only senses and indicates left/right tilt, helping the photographer avoid sloping horizons, but forward and aft pitch, which will be useful in controlling vertical alignment in areas like architectural photography. The orientation indicator is visible in the viewfinder, on the top-panel LCD, and the back screen LCD in live view mode."


Software correction of converging verticals is, of course, perfectly possible (I prefer to use ShiftN or PTLens rather than Photoshop, which is a bit a faff), but it would be difficult to see how it could be implemented in a DSLR. I think someone on DPReview has got hold of the wrong end of the aardvark and the "perspective correction" rumour is bouncing around the web like an unexploded shell...

How keen people are on the idea should give the marmosets who staff Olympus marketing an idea of how successful a ZD Tilt-Shift lens could be if they even thought of making one.

Ian - can I have a free E30 for getting the most weird and mixed metaphors into a post???
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

I got quite excited about this perspective control too here but that thread's been left behind. PhotoOwl said much the same, that it probably isn't as good as we were hoping

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Software correction of converging verticals is, of course, perfectly possible (I prefer to use ShiftN or PTLens rather than Photoshop, which is a bit a faff), but it would be difficult to see how it could be implemented in a DSLR. I think someone on DPReview has got hold of the wrong end of the aardvark and the "perspective correction" rumour is bouncing around the web like an unexploded shell...
The thing about perspective is that you can line the camera up nicely using up and down with spirit levels but if the sensor isn't at 90 degrees to the image there's a heck of a lot of editing and fiddling to do, even if you're using something like ShiftN to fix the verticals, because there are sideways/diagonal differences too which it doesn't fix very well.

It would be nice if they invested in developing a digital shift lens, but I can't see it will happen because I can't imagine there would be many potential customers, except for specialist photographers, and it would be very expensive.
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