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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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The E30 is not weatherproof nor is it an alloy body - from my understanding of the information supplied.

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Thanks Peter for the information.
Seems to me to be a lot more money for a few more pixels like StephenL I think the E-3 is a better investment.

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Thanks Peter for the information.
Seems to me to be a lot more money for a few more pixels like StephenL I think the E-3 is a better investment.

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If weather proofing and a tough alloy body are your priorities, then yes, the E-3 is a better choice for you.

If you think about it, Olympus need to differentiate their models clearly.

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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But C-Net got the info from somewhere. Seriously Ian, Olympus (and others) could make better use of the internet than they currently do. They should be the first to make an announcement and, given the differences in time zones, it should be announced from one site. Local information on pricing could be released later. At least that way the manufacturer remains in control at the time of launching a new product.

I did notice the electronic level indicator but wonder how much such a feature would be used. Nice headline but I suspect of limited value. I was more interested in the feature I picked out. But then again, we all have our own interests and wish lists.

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There have been rumours of a press release for Nov 5 - this sounds like CNET jumping an embargo. For anyone not familiar with PR and Marketing terminology, it's common practice to issue news releases with a "not to be published before...." deadline, especially for things like product launches. This gives publications time to set up their copy, interview people, resize the images, lose the images, ask for another copy etc etc. In theory, it facilitates simultaneous publishing by different media. The drawback is that there's not much to stop someone from jumping the gun and publishing when they feel like it. The only sanction is to say you won't ever send them an embargoed news release ever again and to tell them they've been very naughty boys and girls. With major publications/websites, who needs whom most??? I always disliked embargoes myself and never used them if I could help it when I worked in that kind of PR environment.

Funnily enough, I was toying with the idea of buying the hot shoe mounted electronic level gizmo I saw in a magazine recently for the princely sum of £30 (I think). I do have a bit of a problem with wonky horizons, but to be honest, straightening them in Lightroom is not much trouble.

I agree with you Peter - 14bit would be much more interesting...
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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If weather proofing and a tough alloy body are your priorities, then yes, the E-3 is a better choice for you.

If you think about it, Olympus need to differentiate their models clearly.

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Ian, Its a nice spec and a good fill-in which compares reasonably with the competition but lets see the UK Price.

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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There have been rumours of a press release for Nov 5 - this sounds like CNET jumping an embargo. For anyone not familiar with PR and Marketing terminology, it's common practice to issue news releases with a "not to be published before...." deadline, especially for things like product launches. This gives publications time to set up their copy, interview people, resize the images, lose the images, ask for another copy etc etc. In theory, it facilitates simultaneous publishing by different media. The drawback is that there's not much to stop someone from jumping the gun and publishing when they feel like it. The only sanction is to say you won't ever send them an embargoed news release ever again and to tell them they've been very naughty boys and girls. With major publications/websites, who needs whom most??? I always disliked embargoes myself and never used them if I could help it when I worked in that kind of PR environment.

Funnily enough, I was toying with the idea of buying the hot shoe mounted electronic level gizmo I saw in a magazine recently for the princely sum of 30 (I think). I do have a bit of a problem with wonky horizons, but to be honest, straightening them in Lightroom is not much trouble.

I agree with you Peter - 14bit would be much more interesting...
Hugh,

The difference two bits makes is incredible. With 12 bits you get 4095 levels whilst 14 bits gives you 16,383 to play with. The trouble with digital is that the analogue info is sampled with the amount of bits available. The fewer the bits, the more rounding takes place and detail is lost. Why oh why are manufacturers hooked on pixel count when dynamic range is as least as important?

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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The difference two bits makes is incredible. With 12 bits you get 4095 levels whilst 14 bits gives you 16,383 to play with. The trouble with digital is that the analogue info is sampled with the amount of bits available. The fewer the bits, the more rounding takes place and detail is lost. Why oh why are manufacturers hooked on pixel count when dynamic range is as least as important?

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I'd be cautious about the value of the extra bit resolution. If the signal to noise ratio of the sensor isn't good enough, the extra bits will represent nothing useful.

And I don't really understand the reference to 'rounding off' - if the tonality available is split into 4095 values per channel, what gets rounded off? The signal is not under-sampled. It's just that the sampling is not as fine as 14 bits. 12 bits already represents a massive colour range and most of us will be working in 8-bit environments eventually.

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

CNet appears to have pulled their CNet news item.

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The cnet piece appears to have been pulled, but a synopsis is echoing round the internet...

Meanwhile, you all do make me chuckle! Always going on about how your own Oly is good enough for you, but a new model appears and there are more posts per minute in these forums than on any other subject LOL.

Some may not want 'arty' effects like pinhole camera on what is to be Oly's no.2 machine for a while (and I would be among them - O Lord, is this what Oly's European marketing director meant by 'having photoshop like facilities in the camera?).

But beyond that it seems that the E30 represents a technical step up from the E520 both with sensor (vital) and AF (important). We shall see about ISO (important).

I'm not attracted by it, but then I've lately bought the E520. I'm sure the street price will be lower than the price announced (and the E520 street price should drop too - a real bargain!).

What the price point and reported features mean to me is that to maintain the difference, Oly will shortly (this time next year?) have to bring up a successor to the E3 that has at least 12 MP, better ISO, and more besides. And that's what I'm waiting for, so I'm encouraged!

I just hope that doesn't also have an 'arty grain' facility....

I also hope there will be a high-end micro 4/3 that concentrates on quality rather than questionable 'features'
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

It's still here

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalcamer...9299700,00.htm

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Haha, that's the UK CNet feed...

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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

Dear Ian,

I had a gut feeling that the CNet article might just surfaced a little early as the great god Google did not reveal any other links. For a while I even wondered if it was a spoof article. Perhaps the person concerned may not get another invite to another Olympus pre-launch briefing!

Looking forward to reading more tomorrow out of interest but I will not be buying one until (if ever) my photography skills exceed my existing Olympus camera.

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Haha, that's the UK CNet feed...

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And it's gone from there too!

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And it's gone from there too!

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Still...........

There's always this one


http://www.electronista.com/articles.../olympus.e.30/




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or this one.........


http://www.electronista.com/articles.../olympus.e.30/
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Re: Olympus announces midrange E-30 dSLR, plus new version of the 14-54mm lens

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Get the feeling thats its like trying to plug a leaky dam

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