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Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

Removing shadows to show detail is not just about ajdusting the exposure but matching the colours (or at least adjusting them) between shadowed and sunlit area. I have left the shadows on the left side but processed the the statue and right hand shadows seperately as best I could without spending too much time (there is still an akward line in the two pillers centre right).

An added issue to be corrected here was the significant distortion created by the only viable viewpoint.

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You've worked hard at correcting the distortion... and almost got away with it!
There is a hint of barrel distortion in the building and shooting from the right side has made the left tower look a bit ugly. Perhaps I should "squeeze" it a touch to make it thinner? The right vertical may need an extra half a degree rotation.

What else have I missed? Should I be tring to make the whole thing look sunlit?


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Re: Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

The processed version is pleasing to the eye and I would leave it as it is, unless the minor vertical correction is bothering you. Lovely work.
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Re: Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

Now I know what you have done to the image the incorrect details begin to stand out especially the alignment of the figures on the apex of the roof compared to the dome and also the statue in front of the building.
I am sure that if I was seeing the processed image without knowing the PP story it would appear to be an excellent picture.
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Re: Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

Hmm, the shadow removal worked fine but the building seems have been squashed and it feels like the picture was taken from a higher position. Its still a good image though.
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Re: Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

My 2p opinion and nothing more -

The shadow recovery looks a tiny bit overdone to my eyes.
I would crop out the modern buildings on the left to even up the composition.
The thing that really jumps out at me is the clock is now oval which draws my eye and suggests that the building needs to be stretched vertically to compensate.
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Re: Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

Like Iain said on first looking at the second image it looks great but reading your story and looking closely at the two images the little things do start to stand out. I think the only thing I'd do to that second image is to make the clocks look round again maybe just by squeezing the whole image sideways a bit. All in all it's a nice shot.
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Now I know what you have done to the image the incorrect details begin to stand out especially the alignment of the figures on the apex of the roof compared to the dome and also the statue in front of the building. I am sure that if I was seeing the processed image without knowing the PP story it would appear to be an excellent picture.
Thank you, Iain, for that final comment. You are right that on closer inspection the figures look "out".

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Hmm, the shadow removal worked fine but the building seems have been squashed and it feels like the picture was taken from a higher position. Its still a good image though.
Thank you Dave. I was concentrating more on the shadows. I will have to look more at the building squish. The tool in Elements does seem to introduce unwanted side effects in one direction when distorting/stretching/skewing in the other and I've yet to find a way around it.
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The shadow recovery looks a tiny bit overdone to my eyes. I would crop out the modern buildings on the left to even up the composition.The thing that really jumps out at me is the clock is now oval which draws my eye and suggests that the building needs to be stretched vertically to compensate.Good effort!
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Like Iain said on first looking at the second image it looks great but reading your story and looking closely at the two images the little things do start to stand out. I think the only thing I'd do to that second image is to make the clocks look round again maybe just by squeezing the whole image sideways a bit. All in all it's a nice shot.
Andy, Phil, thank you both. I'll go and look at the clock again.
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Re: Removing Shadows and Correcting Distortion

Inspired by your comments I felt further work was necessary and warranted so I persevered. Here is the latest version.

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That looks really good to me, well done.
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