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Finally saw That Film

Well, we finally went to see Avatar in 3D tonight. What an experience.. I rate this film on a level with Lord of the Rings and (all those years ago) 2001 from the point of view of ground breaking effects and believability. OK, not the deepest of plots, but goodness me, the CGI is so good these days you reallly don't know what is real. Immense amounts of computer generated detail are thrown at you 25 times per second and the result is very compelling.

I did read that the 3D helps to convince your brain that you are really there - therefore the computer generated scene must be genuine. Maybe so, but I think we passed the point where you could look at a CGI film and say "yeah, but you can see its a fake" some time in the past 5 years.

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Re: Finally saw That Film

I am going to have to wait for the fil to be released on bluray......I cant go to the cimena these days as I can see the screen flickering both on film and the rainbow effect when using DLP projectors. I can also see flickering on nearly all CRT monitors and most plasma monitors.

BTW, its 24 fps for digital cinema, and 28/48 for film. Normally each film image is projected twice.

I am still looking forward to watching it though
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Will the flickering still be there on digital IMAX??
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I have only been to one IMAX screen. I think it was film and not digital (about 6 years ago in Florida), but i cant remember if it flickered.
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Re: Finally saw That Film

I can't say I saw any flicker this evening, but I am not so sensitive to it I guess. Some of the ads before the film had been re-made for 3D and were truly awful, poke-in-the-eye type 3D, and some of them showed chronic line tearing due to one too many standards conversions I suspect.

Fortunately the 3D in Avatar is fairly restrained. As far as I can analyse the glasses are circular polarised.

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Re: Finally saw That Film

Gotta agrea, great to watch, I thought the story line was a little weak, but the effects/cgi/3d really made it for me.

I watched in 3d at an Imax cinema and can confirm the glassed are circular polarised. The 3d was awesome it really added depth to the film without being "in your face"

I would recommend anyone to go see it at a Imax
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Re: Finally saw That Film

Yep Pete, an absolutely stunning film, and for me as a recommendation is a 'must watch'. The effects are simply brilliant, and literally take you there, right there into the film itself.

I posted something on Facebook from the cinema when I was there along the lines of 'holy ****, Avatar is awesome' or words to that effect.

I went with Jen, Heather and her friend - and we all sat for 2.75 hours totally riveted to our seats. Loved it.
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I've heard mixed stories from people who have seen it, I decided to wait 'til the bluray comes out mainly 'cos I don't think I could sit in a cinema for nearly 3 hours without falling asleep!..............
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Re: Finally saw That Film

Funnily enoiugh I was keen to see Avatar UNTIL I realised that it was in 3D and hence won't be watching it until I can be confident that I can see it in 2D without the distraction

I have quite enough capability of immersing myself in excellent story and pictures and find myself looking around the edges of gimmicky things like this and hence distracted.

When as a technology it's just so matter of fact that it's no-longer got any distraction I'll come back and watch this film

In comparison I watched Kill Bill 1 & 2 on DVD last night (long walk during the day so knackered enough to want to spend the evening on the sofa) and enjoyed how each scene was a stunning picture so well framed. Not a thing that 3D would have improved on

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Re: Finally saw That Film

Personally I think a good radio play is often in far more dimensions than my brain can handle.

A well written book, that takes you inside the experience. Though certain acclaimed writers can make me feel that I've aged years in a single paragraph, a good enough reason to avoid those books.

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Re: Finally saw That Film

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I am going to have to wait for the fil to be released on bluray......I cant go to the cimena these days as I can see the screen flickering both on film and the rainbow effect when using DLP projectors. I can also see flickering on nearly all CRT monitors and most plasma monitors.

BTW, its 24 fps for digital cinema, and 28/48 for film. Normally each film image is projected twice.

I am still looking forward to watching it though
You will need a 3D-enabled TV to watch it at home in 3D. And you will need to wear LCD shutter spex too - will that be a problem?

The experts' opinion is that watching at home with LCD glasses will deliver a better 3D experience than the cinema (with cheaper polarising spectacles).

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I've heard mixed stories from people who have seen it, I decided to wait 'til the bluray comes out mainly 'cos I don't think I could sit in a cinema for nearly 3 hours without falling asleep!..............
I wonder how many people realise that to watch 3D at home you will need a new TV?

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Gotta agrea, great to watch, I thought the story line was a little weak, but the effects/cgi/3d really made it for me.

I watched in 3d at an Imax cinema and can confirm the glassed are circular polarised. The 3d was awesome it really added depth to the film without being "in your face"

I would recommend anyone to go see it at a Imax
Coloured analglyph glasses for 3D are a complete no-no for quality reasons today. At cinemas it's far too expensive to use LCD shutter glasses, but polarising specs work well.

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Re: Finally saw That Film

Not wishing to sound like an "Avatar convert" - but I should say that the 3D part of the film does add to the experience without being a pain. At no stage did I wish I could take the glasses off, or get bored with the whole thing or get a headache (all of which I was expecting).

I was expecting some sort of overdone cheap 1950s effects fest, but rather to my surprise most of the 3D was quite subtle and (for the jungle scenes) rather beautiful..

A good reason to see the film is for the astonishing quality of CGI these days. Very few clunky moments where you are reminded that nine feet tall blue aliens on a gravity-variable jungle planet don't actually exist*.



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Funnily enoiugh I was keen to see Avatar UNTIL I realised that it was in 3D and hence won't be watching it until I can be confident that I can see it in 2D without the distraction

I have quite enough capability of immersing myself in excellent story and pictures and find myself looking around the edges of gimmicky things like this and hence distracted.

When as a technology it's just so matter of fact that it's no-longer got any distraction I'll come back and watch this film

In comparison I watched Kill Bill 1 & 2 on DVD last night (long walk during the day so knackered enough to want to spend the evening on the sofa) and enjoyed how each scene was a stunning picture so well framed. Not a thing that 3D would have improved on

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Unless you try it you'll never know, but honestly it's brill - and I'm the biggest sceptic ever !

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