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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

That all sounds encouraging – I had the grip for the E-1 but rarely used it (already amongst the best handling cameras ever designed in my humble opinion).

I don't mind carrying another battery with me, which is what I do with the E3.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

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Handled one earlier this week at Jessops in Manchester.
Quite tempted by it, as I'm finding the E-3 is just too big and heavy for me much of the time and my Fuji x10 doesn't quite cut it.

I don't buy cameras very often so have missed out on the whole development of the micro 4/3rds I've always had a few issues about noise and low light images especially at high ISO settings.will I see a noticeable improvement in image quality from the E3 with 14-54mm lens to the OM-D EM10?
Expect a couple of stops of extra noise headroom and significantly more dynamic range and at least double the resolving power (the E-3 sensor has a quite powerful anti-aliasing filter).

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

I'll second Ian's opinion about image improvement - I've got an E620, and the difference in IQ is fairly dramatic (to the EM-5). There are also a host of other features that make shooting so much better, too. The only thing I miss is the fully-rotating screen (and the eye-detector gets in the way of touchscreen shooting on the EM-5, but has been corrected for the EM1 and, I assume, EM10 (or does the EM10 not have touch-screen shooting ?))

Edit: it apparently DOES have touchscreen shooting; and an intervalometer, which I'd've loved; but NOT weathersealing ...

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

I'm quite warming to the idea of the camera. If I'm jumping ship from the E Series I'm going to have a quick looks at the competition, but nothing at the price with the features I want is screaming.

I do find a tilting and swivelling screen occasionally useful, as is weather sealing, but it's a cheaper camera so they're compromises I can live with. It'll be so nice to have a system camera that doesn't weigh a ton – especially on holidays, where I've always been torn between shooting and snapping.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

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I'm quite warming to the idea of the camera. If I'm jumping ship from the E Series I'm going to have a quick looks at the competition, but nothing at the price with the features I want is screaming.

I do find a tilting and swivelling screen occasionally useful, as is weather sealing, but it's a cheaper camera so they're compromises I can live with. It'll be so nice to have a system camera that doesn't weigh a ton especially on holidays, where I've always been torn between shooting and snapping.
Once you've handled a lighter camera which still has "heft", along with a set of compact lenses, you won't go back.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

Ian, does it correct CA on Oly and Panasonic lenses on JPGs like the E-M1? I guess that may be reserved for the top model, unless it's a standard part of the latest TruePic VII engine? Just curious, as the E-M1 and E-M5 make a great pair at the moment.

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

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I'll second Ian's opinion about image improvement - I've got an E620, and the difference in IQ is fairly dramatic (to the EM-5). There are also a host of other features that make shooting so much better, too.
Actually for me if they simply put the sensor into an e-620 body that'd be about twice as nice as an E-M5/E-M1/E-M10 ...
But they won't.

Re:Image improvement : there is definitely more fine detail at 100% zoom, but apart from that and noise (which enables high-ISO) there are subtle things about colours and contrast that - in my opinion - are decidedly degraded in the modern cameras. It might be an unavoidable side effect of really good dynamic range. Someone made a great post about this elsewhere.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

So the OMD-EM10 is not compatible with four thirds lenses?
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

It takes micro 4/3 lenses like all the Pens etc.
You can get an adaptor to fit the original 4/3 lenses on it.
I've got a couple of lenses I wouldn't replace such as a 35mm macro and 7-14mm, but rather than get an adaptor I'll use them on my E3 which will still see service in very bad weather as it's weather sealed.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

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So the OMD-EM10 is not compatible with four thirds lenses?
With the MMF adaptor, yes it is. But speed of autofocus may be challenged.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

So what does this mean?

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The E-M10 is a really great little camera but it's not what owners of ageing budget E-System DSLRs were hoping for as there is no E-M1 style phase-detect AF to make Four Thirds lenses work properly.

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

To be honest I don't think the E-M1 works properly with 4/3s lenses either. It's better than a E-M5 yes but my old E510 still walks all over it in af with 4/3s lenses. But for everything else though the E-M1 is superb. Very frustrating given all the hype at launch.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

Having an E400 and E420 this is bang in the price range I would go for an upgrade. I have read and watched reviews and it seems like an extremely capable body offering many features and benefits I do not currently have in a price range I can easily afford for a new body.

However, if it is not fully compatible with the thousands of pounds worth of 4/3 glass I have accumulated during my time being loyal to Olympus what is the point!
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

It appears the system I have invested my hard earned into is now obsolete completely. May be time to offload before it is completely worthless.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

Mirrorless cameras need to use on-sensor phase detect (allocating some of the imaging pixels to be used for phase detection autofocus) to best focus lenses designed for phase detect autofocus, there being no mirror to deflect the image onto a separate pahse detect focussing sensor. The alternative is to use the conventional mirrorless camera technique of contrast detect autofocus for which these lenses were not designed - hence the slow performance.

On sensor phase detect (in fact a hybrid sensor as they can both CDAF and PDAF) is still a new technology. For this read pricey and not mature. In fact the E-M1 system still only has horizontal phase detect (its easier to read the sensor in rows of pixels rather than columns) rather than a cross type system. This is why you see hybrid sensors in the top of the range cameras where a higher price can be charged.

I am sure that in time the technology will filter down into the lower price cameras where it will benefit not only the four thirds phase detect designed lenses but also provide foccus confirmation for manual focussed lenses.

All this is not much help for those who wish to switch systems now but it does mean the future is not as bleak as it may at first appear. Of course I have no crystal ball and just because the technology will appear does not mean that Olympus will make it available (in the same way they mocked up an E-7 but decided it would be uneconomic to continue with further development).
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