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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

I think the height will be the dimension most noticed compared to the E-M5, have they retained EXACTLY the E-M5's viewfinder, or shrunk something?
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

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The E-M10 is a really great little camera but it's not what owners of ageing budget E-System DSLRs were hoping for as there is no E-M1 style phase-detect AF to make Four Thirds lenses work properly.

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

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I think the height will be the dimension most noticed compared to the E-M5, have they retained EXACTLY the E-M5's viewfinder, or shrunk something?
There is no room used up by the Accessory Port any more and I suspect that the acceleromters that are housed in the 'pentaprism' bump in the E-M5 may have been relocated in order to make space for the pop-up flash.

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I don't think Stephen was disagreeing that the E-M10 is smaller but whether or not that was a good thing

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

It looks like they are using the newer eyecup (EP-14) that was also used on the Stylus 1. I find it much better as a wearer of glasses than the EP-10 (original eyecup on the E-M5) & the EP-11 with it hanging out so far, so this might suit more people on the E-M10 too. I wonder how long it will be before it becomes available as a spare (& for use on the E-M5's too).
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

Some minor points...

The reason for the button to the left of the eyepiece seen on some of the "rumour" pictures is revealed (its the pop up flash activate).

The dioptre correction still has no "zero" mark (a sad ommission on the E-M5), although it does have some printing on it will help if you can remember the starting position.

Swapping the Fn1 and Playback buttons will cause some problems as users switch between the E-M10 and E-M5
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Some minor points...

The reason for the button to the left of the eyepiece seen on some of the "rumour" pictures is revealed (its the pop up flash activate).

The dioptre correction still has no "zero" mark (a sad ommission on the E-M5), although it does have some printing on it will help if you can remember the starting position.

Swapping the Fn1 and Playback buttons will cause some problems as users switch between the E-M10 and E-M5
Not correct - on the E-M10 there is a small reference notch at 3 o'clock as you view the correction knob/wheel and there is a corresponding notch on the knob/wheel itself. Very small, yes, but they are there.

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It looks like they are using the newer eyecup (EP-14) that was also used on the Stylus 1. I find it much better as a wearer of glasses than the EP-10 (original eyecup on the E-M5) & the EP-11 with it hanging out so far, so this might suit more people on the E-M10 too. I wonder how long it will be before it becomes available as a spare (& for use on the E-M5's too).
Yes, the E-M10 comes as standard with the EP-14 eyecup.

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I thought that was the whole point of this series. It's very disappointing for me as I was hoping for an affordable solution for the future.
I think it will be some time before phase-detect trickles down to the lower priced cameras. Can you imagine the impact on sales of the E-M1 if the E-M10 suported PD?

The E-M10 has eveything I expected of it. I am happy for it and think its a great addition perfectly placed in the OMD lineup. I will await reports to see if the sensor suffers from the noise issues at long exposure that some E-M1 users have reported but I suspect not if they made no changes when they carried over the E-M5 sensor.

Not needing FT lens support, not liking the bigger size/weight of the E-M1, wanting the 5 axis stabilisation rather than the 3 axis of the E-M10, and liking the OLED screen of the E-M5, I still feel I have made the correct choice in the E-M5 and I remain a happy Olympus user.
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Not correct - on the E-M10 there is a small reference notch at 3 o'clock as you view the correction knob/wheel and there is a corresponding notch on the knob/wheel itself. Very small, yes, but they are there.
Thanks Ian. This was not obvious from the photos you put up.
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....secondary EVF (which some like for downwards viewing).

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Not that I'm a wedding or street photographer, but with the camera turned 90 degrees to portrait, looking down becomes looking in another direction as far as the unsuspecting subject is concerned. Both downward and sideways usage is great for taking candid shots.

I'll stick to my XZ-1 (with VF-2) though. I sold the original OM-D after a wedding where, for me, it had too many options compared to both the XZ-1 and EPL-2 I had used at earlier weddings.

Interesting development though... like the flash and remote smartphone view.
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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

Handled one earlier this week at Jessops in Manchester.
Quite tempted by it, as I'm finding the E-3 is just too big and heavy for me much of the time and my Fuji x10 doesn't quite cut it.

I don't buy cameras very often so have missed out on the whole development of the micro 4/3rds – I've always had a few issues about noise and low light images especially at high ISO settings.will I see a noticeable improvement in image quality from the E3 with 14-54mm lens to the OM-D EM10?
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Handled one earlier this week at Jessops in Manchester.
Quite tempted by it, as I'm finding the E-3 is just too big and heavy for me much of the time and my Fuji x10 doesn't quite cut it.

I don't buy cameras very often so have missed out on the whole development of the micro 4/3rds I've always had a few issues about noise and low light images especially at high ISO settings.will I see a noticeable improvement in image quality from the E3 with 14-54mm lens to the OM-D EM10?
You will certainly notice an improvement in IQ & also be able to use it at a much higher ISO too. The one thing that may not excite you moving from the E3 (if you have a battery grip on it), will be the battery capacity. The E-M5 uses the BLN-1 battery & has the option to add a battery grip but the E-M10 uses the BLS-5 battery which has sightly less capacity & no ability to add a second battery (in a grip). The add on grip (for the E-M10) is purely for physical comfort. Other than that, I think this will be a great little camera.

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Re: Olympus OM-D E-M10 hands-on preview and image samples

Best IQ yet, best High ISO performance too, best handling olympus m4/3 to date, I agree about batteries,but I guess there is a trade off weight and size. I carry 2 spare batteries if I have an all day shoot as I don't fancy adding a battery grip. I have never needed the third battery but it is piece of mind.

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