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Lakes Moments

I wonder what you make of these? The strong sunlight does not make for good images during the day, but these are the best I came up with:

Here is a variation on the old single tree on the skyline...




Sunshine, shadow and reflections in the Newlands Valley






Worn away by countless hands, this farm gate on a walker's route.





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Re: Lakes Moments

You know, I hate to admit it, but your "detail" photos are the best. The door clip is great, the others are merely good. Number one doesn't quite make it for me, but I do like number two.
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Re: Lakes Moments

I don't think I'm really qualified for critique but I agree with Stephen's comments. The first two both have good foregrounds but are let down by the poor light in the background.

Nevertheless great scenery, wish I were there.

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Re: Lakes Moments

You seem to be having the same weather that I had up there last week. Nothing wrong with the others but I like the simplicity of the first one.
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Re: Lakes Moments

Hmm. I think there are several thongs wrong with these having looked at them again.

The first one is a long telephoto shot, so the atmospheric haze has reduced the contrast. When I get back to base I will give it a load of PP to see if I can put some punch into that light and shade in the r.h. foreground.

The second shot also suffers from odd lighting and I will rework it in PP. I should have waited for the cloud to move but we were on a forced march to get to the pub for life saving beer.

The third shot is let down by the nasty bokeh on the top right corner, but I can sort that out with layers and gaussian blur, I think.. I did like that latch though. So smooth and worn from all those walkers passing through the farmyard...

I shall regret saying this, bit it has actually been too hot, and the lighting too flat these past few days. A few more clouds and a drop in temperature of 5 degrees would be welcome

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Re: Lakes Moments

I do like No 1. It suffers is from loss of contrast on the second hill, but the composition is great. The detail of the hook and chain is sublime.
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Re: Lakes Moments

I agree with John...the detail on the hook and chain is lovely...just what you're good at!

I have to say that number one does nothing for me, and it's rare that I say that about any of your photos...I wouldn't normally dare!

Number two? Well, that's a different matter....I really like it, and it wouldn't have quite the same impact without the clouds.

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Re: Lakes Moments

It's really interesting to see how widely different peoples' reactions are. I quite like them all, but no. 2 doesn't rally light my fire. No. 1 does, and in no. 3 the odd stuff going on in the top right plus dark subject/light bacground takes attention away from the details.

I wonder if the difference comes because some of us will see the picture as patterns, almost abstract, while others (including me) will try and walk through it.

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Re: Lakes Moments

Strangely, based on the assumption that you're on holiday in the Lakes and so there may need to be a tiny bit of editing work to counteract the haze once back home, I'm going counter to the previous comments and say that I really like No.1 - it's a lovely and unusual shot of the hills in the Lake District taken by someone looking
  • a/. for something a little different to the 'standard' landscape shot (and as an example of a 'standard' attractive landscape shot I will point to No.2!)
  • b/. at what makes an interesting composition. The trees on the skyline have been kept clear of the background of the distant hill, and the sunlight on the shaded foreground hillside help add interest to this area too by leading the eye up to the trees. I also like the fact that you've used the corner of the frame so that the hillside drops at its dramatic angle down from it - good crop or good initial composition.
  • c/. using the haze to give depth. Ideally perhaps a tiny bit more shading to the background hill will reduce the full impact of the haze, especially as there is so much contrast compared to the dark foreground hillside, but the haze does make the eye see that the hillside is much further away - get too much similarity of colour saturation/shading in this type of image and you lose all impact.

I headed out to Grasmere area in the Lakes on Sunday, deliberately using the Sigma telephoto to limit taking 'standard' landscapes, and haze was an issue that editing at home has improved. But what a scorcher of a day - I was surprised that my photos didn't end up with drips of sweat cascading down the front of the lens!!

Hope the rest of your visit continues with lots of amazing photo opportunites - it's hard to know when to put the camera/lens down in this weather and landscape!

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Re: Lakes Moments

I like them all, they capture the real essence of the Lakes for me. However:

#1. Certainly a little more contrast in the nearest hill, maybe enhance the green of the grass to boost the perspective.

#2. Just More contrast needed.

#3. Love it, but the highlights blown on the right keeps drawing the eye.

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Re: Lakes Moments

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I'm going counter to the previous comments and say that I really like No.1 - it's a lovely and unusual shot of the hills in the Lake District

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Thanks for that. I think you see where I was coming from, even if the clouds and haze worked against me. Here is a shot taken a few moments later that I rejected at the time. I have rescued this with some PP to add impact, but it illustrates what I left out of the first shot..



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Re: Lakes Moments

I quite like that as a basic shot, which I'm sure would benefit from your magic touch on the mouse. Definitely shows promise.

PS did you get that beer?
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Re: Lakes Moments

I like all three, but especially the third one.

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The third shot is let down by the nasty bokeh on the top right corner, but I can sort that out with layers and gaussian blur, I think..
Why not just crop it square? (And possibly a black and white conversion?)
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PS did you get that beer?
Oh yes. It was definitely beer after walk weather. Fell asleep later.
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Re: Lakes Moments

No 1 is great as it is - the fells are stunning; I think 3 would be a cracker with the background blurred and foreground sharpened like crazy to emphasise the texture of the wall and metal...it might be just me but is the wall in No3 leaning a bit?
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