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E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Well, a few lessons learnt from the last outing, better use of a lovely sunny day and an improvement in the results. Yet again the E-520 and 70-300mm combination shows that in the right conditions I'm going to have a lot of difficulty claiming that I need a bigger better DSLR. And these birds were getting very close which made it even more challenging, so some shots will miss body parts!!

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You can almost see the skid marks as this gull realises that it's just missed its turning!


Not really sure which would have made the better photo - the water splash being in focus and the bird not, or vice versa? Whatever the case, I was so impressed with the water droplets clarity in this.




As you can see, the sunlight has played a major part in the attraction of these photos compared to the last session.

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

I'm liking these action shots, excellent especially the third one

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Nice shots like the wing shape in no 7 will have to give this a try lots of bread needed?
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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

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Nice shots like the wing shape in no 7 will have to give this a try lots of bread needed?
Bread? No of course not, just many many hours of training!!

However . . . the key essentials:
  • Some form of enticement is useful, preferably provided by someone else so that you can concentrate on the photography. Bread especially is a problem for ducks and in some public areas feeding the wildlife can lead to fines, so perhaps leave it to others to feed or take grain / mealworm / a can of tuna (no don't, not the latter). You'll also find that photos of birds with large pieces of bread don't make for good images!
  • A location where the wildlife is used to humans, thus making it a lot easier to get those very close fly-bys
  • A location where you can maximise the sunlight, that is relatively sheltered from the wind, and that has a relatively small area that is used by the wildlife - ducks are a good indicator of a feeding area, and this can attract other wildlife
  • And a bit of patience to take time to watch how the wildlife uses the area, routeways & circuits that the birds fly, how they react, and how to best make use of the light and shade, etc., etc.

It's certainly been an interesting photo opportunity challenge for me, and very pleased with how the camera gear did.

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Amazing shots.
Just don't know how you have done this as I cannot manage to capture a B****y great Heron from 100 yds.

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Lovely pics, nice one

I saw your other post and pics (also very good BTW) and your comments about needing more focus points

I take a lot of pics of bike racing and I find it easier to lock the autofocus to a single point as it saves the autofocus hunting about points trying to find one thats in focus, if you know what I mean.

I found it helped a lot, could be worth a try

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

I really, really, really like the 2nd shot, there is tons of charactor in this shot, well done
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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

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Lovely pics, nice one

I saw your other post and pics (also very good BTW) and your comments about needing more focus points

I take a lot of pics of bike racing and I find it easier to lock the autofocus to a single point as it saves the autofocus hunting about points trying to find one thats in focus, if you know what I mean.

I found it helped a lot, could be worth a try

Andy
Yep, tried that this time so had the centre of the three fixed but those birds, when they're so close to, move really rather fast for me! Plus once the E-520 loses focus onto a more distant backdrop it takes an age for it to recover. Plus it then gets difficult to frame the bird as you want, so a lot of photos ended up less than ideal from a composition point of view.
I've had a similar problem with low flying aircraft on the nearby range, where the zone of focus seems quite small at times, so a slightly more distant object isn't picked up very well, the system then hunts and by the time it's ready the object has long gone!
Has anyone seen a diagram for the area covered by the focus points? Is it very much the box area or is that just an indicator of a 'zone'?
C'est la vie, I guess.
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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

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Yep, tried that this time so had the centre of the three fixed but those birds, when they're so close to, move really rather fast for me! Plus once the E-520 loses focus onto a more distant backdrop it takes an age for it to recover. Plus it then gets difficult to frame the bird as you want, so a lot of photos ended up less than ideal from a composition point of view.
I've had a similar problem with low flying aircraft on the nearby range, where the zone of focus seems quite small at times, so a slightly more distant object isn't picked up very well, the system then hunts and by the time it's ready the object has long gone!
Has anyone seen a diagram for the area covered by the focus points? Is it very much the box area or is that just an indicator of a 'zone'?
C'est la vie, I guess.
Yeah I get that too, I think maybe it just loses focus on the subject because its not picked up a good contrast or edge, and struggles to reset itself. Theres quite a few times Ive had to refocus on the grass to get it sorted.

As for aircraft, I used to be good at that, but I was very dissapointed at my last efforts, focus and lightness (levels) all either way too dark or way too light, but thats another subject eh!
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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

These are excellent as are those in the LFP section.

I must give this a go soon
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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

These are a great example of what the 70-300 really is capable of. It's not a very glamorous lense, but it's actually very capable (good for portraits and macro as well as wildlife), versatile and good value.

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Thanks for all the positive comments - I think that it's a cracking lens in the right conditions, at possibly half the weight, a fraction of the size, and a pimple of the cost of a friend's rather lovely Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8G IF-ED VR Lens attached to a lovely heavy Nikon D200 (plus all the rest) - for some reason, he doesn't go out with his kit very often! But to give him credit, when he does get out with the kit he takes some cracking photos that make me jealous.

Of course maybe I should be trying out / hiring the Zuiko Digital 90-250mm f/2.8 to use with the E-30 before getting too cocky about cost, weight and size?

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

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These are a great example of what the 70-300 really is capable of. It's not a very glamorous lense, but it's actually very capable (good for portraits and macro as well as wildlife), versatile and good value.

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It's next on my list.

I plan to try wildlife/bird shots for the first time when I get it.

Shots like these just inspire me to go out and do it!

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Yep. I'm definately warming to this lens. I must resist. Great set of photo's.

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Re: E-Gulls as seen by 70-300mm (multiple images)

Great photos! Number 2 is my favourite.
I have the 70-300mm lens for my E510. Bright sunny days definitely help ALOT. I find it can be a bit of pain on darker gloomy days - I have trouble getting focus, it hunts, and then the resulting images never seem sharp.
But you've demonstrated that in the right conditions, it's a nice bit of glass!

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