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Old 18th May 2016
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closeup lumix pics :EEK:

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I have now worked out the new Olympus Macro lens was a waste of dollar after all. Someday I will learn.
Just took these close up photos of succulent flowers I was given today, and I used my old ‪#‎Panasonic‬ ‪#‎LumixFZ200‬ and ‪#‎Canon_250_Achromatic_Lens‬. Good enough for this bloke and a lot easier to do than using Oly macro lens. Sorry Olympus but you lost out this time. Hopefully I can sell it without losing too much money . Rather annoyed with myself really


And shock horrors : The Oly and lenses might be looking for a new home also; however it will not happen overnight or in a rush. Yep; still the best camera I have used by a country mile, however there is something about the versatility of the Lumix FZ200 that appeals to me and appeals a great deal. And it appears the new FZ300 is better to handle with many of the 200's 1st model little dramas being addressed. I have posted a few new FZ200 photos on FB and that's about all I do with photos these days; upload them to the internet so file size is not a big issue. One camera with a good fast lens, 3 or so small 52mm filters although 62mm could be better to stop any vignetting; tripod not really needed although I couldn't have captured the above pics without one. They were taken at sunset lol. That's my sort of photography now. But I do like the focus peeking/stacking/oly forum .............. much to think about I think
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

Nice Ian but I'm sure the Oly 60mm macro could do better. I haven't got one yet myself but looking at some of the images that Frank Rückert is posting on facebook they are stunning if macro is your thing.
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

I'm just finding it hard to use phil and I don't have the motivation for hard photography.

and, I'm sure the dslr macro could do better than a 60mm oly

and I'm sure the ff dslr macro could do better than a dslr macro

and I'm sure ................................ where do we stop Phil ?

In fact; the 12-40 gets in rather close and with some cropping the 12-40 get close enough for me and it's a lot easier to use. I'm more into close up and minimal photography than actual macro

a better option for me would have been the sigma 60mm + Achromatic lens or the for a few more dollars the newer FZ300. Now down to under Au$700 delivered for aust stock

pity you weren't closer; you could have a 'new' oly macro for Au$400
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

I agree about the FZ300 it sounds like a great camera. I used to have an old FZ20 and loved it. That was really excellent for all round use with it f2.8 x10 lens and great for macro too.
Oooh Au$400.. that's about £198, now that's almost worth posting even though the lens is currently on offer here new for £274 including Oly's £75 cash back. I can't imagine you will have trouble selling at that price unless lenses are cheaper in Oz.
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

only cost me $500 new; aust stock Phil
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

I like my 60mm macro lens, but for macro use I do need to advance the focus to 1:1 first (rotate the dial to 1:1) if that is the magnification I want. It can be difficult to know the minimum distance if just expecting the AF to get there but if set to 1:1 first then moving in till it becomes clear the AF can take over reliably. Is that the part that is an issue?

Any macro lens works best that way for maximum magnification & using AF.
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

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I'm just finding it hard to use phil and I don't have the motivation for hard photography.

and, I'm sure the dslr macro could do better than a 60mm oly

and I'm sure the ff dslr macro could do better than a dslr macro

and I'm sure ................................ where do we stop Phil ?

In fact; the 12-40 gets in rather close and with some cropping the 12-40 get close enough for me and it's a lot easier to use. I'm more into close up and minimal photography than actual macro

a better option for me would have been the sigma 60mm + Achromatic lens or the for a few more dollars the newer FZ300. Now down to under Au$700 delivered for aust stock

pity you weren't closer; you could have a 'new' oly macro for Au$400
You mention all the different format sizes but it is the small format that will be to the best advantage for getting the object best in focus (greatest DoF) without needing to stack multiple images, but I think M4/3's is possibly the best format in many ways for macro. Mark Berkery started out using a Panasonic DMC-FZ50 but now he uses a M4/3's camera (with his preferred lens combination).

This page includes his equipment & methods.
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

cheers Ross; I often use manual focus and creep in with a cheap focusing rail works best.
I think I did that yesterday with the 60 mm oly. Used the the rail to get as close as possible .. stacked in camera [about 25mm
/1 inch across .. in a old electric kettle so wind is not problem
should have used the NEW Au$20.50 hoya polarizing filter
OK; I will do a lumix pic also

I guess I have become too much of a 'click and go' photographer. The few people who have been with me say how fast I'm at spotting the photo; getting the photo; finding the next photo. The FZ200 makes it even quicker with a broader # of subjects. Would much prefer a bit wider and 400 mm would do. 600mm [108mm] is a little softer as is F2.8 with F4.5 the sharpest

The [very] few people who have been with me ask these
"why don't look at the photo on the screen" .
The quick answer is : it's not a dslr
"why take only one or sometimes two pics"
The quick answer is : saves time selecting the best pic on the computer
But I have worked out how to save time there. Quick run through all > x the shockers > run through them again and usually to first sharp /OK pic becomes the photo. May keep another but all get Xed without a 2nd look in LR.
When stacking in camera: I x all the raw files and don't look at them

We seem to waste so much time selecting the better photos from ALL the 'just in case' pics. Photos to me are just a thing to do now and photos are not overly important in any way apart from the satisfaction of seeing the photo, getting the photo and just being out there. Camera used makes little difference; very little really. Remember I went from FF canon to Lumix should use the G12 more .. sorry thinking out loud again so back to topic

. ......
there was a very slight breeze about when I took the pics in the OP and I now realize that has shown up with the slow shutter speed
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

I better not do anything too rash lol
http://cameratimes.org/olympus-om-d-...solution-mode/

maybe I do need 20mp and 40mp Handheld High Resolution mode .... nono
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

I better not do anything too rash lol
http://cameratimes.org/olympus-om-d-...solution-mode/

maybe I do need 20mp and 40mp Handheld High Resolution mode ....
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

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I like my 60mm macro lens, but for macro use I do need to advance the focus to 1:1 first (rotate the dial to 1:1) if that is the magnification I want. It can be difficult to know the minimum distance if just expecting the AF to get there but if set to 1:1 first then moving in till it becomes clear the AF can take over reliably. Is that the part that is an issue?

Any macro lens works best that way for maximum magnification & using AF.
From time to time I try AF for close-ups, macro and general photography. To summarize, I find it unreliable, unnecessary and it just slows me down.

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Nice Ian but I'm sure the Oly 60mm macro could do better. I haven't got one yet myself but looking at some of the images that Frank Rückert is posting on facebook they are stunning if macro is your thing.
His macro ones look fuzzy to me.

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From time to time I try AF for close-ups, macro and general photography. To summarize, I find it unreliable, unnecessary and it just slows me down.

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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

Harold one day I'd like to be able to get to that level of fuzziness. I'd be pretty happy with that.
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Re: closeup lumix pics :EEK:

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Harold one day I'd like to be able to get to that level of fuzziness. I'd be pretty happy with that.
I've been there.

The place to look for macro inspiration is:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/45

or www.photomacrography.net

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